Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by inglishill

I am actually in the process of reading this entire thread, it is a novel. I like the odd comment '...there is a picture of it posted in this thread......' Fantastic

Anyways, I have not come across it yet, but has anyone been using the Hornady 60gr SP? Reloaders has them for $35/100 at the moment and I was wondering if they may be a good option for deer?

Have used a couple of hundred or so of these doing ungulate pest control. They work fine but then so do the 55’s as long as you put them in the right place, same as any caliber/weight.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Only one way to find out...

If your barrel is a slower twist (1:12" or even 1:14") it could amplfy terminal performance.

There has been some stuff about copper bullets needing an even faster twist to increase 'rotational tissue damage' but that's even more full of shit than the whole 'copper bullets don't cause meat contamination' theory.

Eh?

Originally Posted by inglishill

I am actually in the process of reading this entire thread, it is a novel. I like the odd comment '...there is a picture of it posted in this thread......' Fantastic

Anyways, I have not come across it yet, but has anyone been using the Hornady 60gr SP? Reloaders has them for $35/100 at the moment and I was wondering if they may be a good option for deer?

They work and will stabilise in the slower twists being flat based so reasonably short.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

They work and will stabilise in the slower twists being flat based so reasonably short.

Cool!

I forgot to mention it is a 1 in 8 twist Far too excited and prematurely hit enter.

When I say it like that it sounds like I was trying to make a kid........

Then I realise I was just most probably oversharing........

Good article in latest NZHunter magazine that deals with using monos and a bit of explanation on varmits type projectiles....only thing missing was speil on the heavies.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Good old mate came out with me yesterday.
Malc got 2 together. 55 grn PMC Bronze @200. He's a good shot - both high shoulder - one went straight down and the other was 15 yds away.

I'm just prepping for the annual Xmas freezer filler trip. Picked up 300 rounds of those 55 grn PMC Bronze cheap. Certainly group OK. Not as tight as handloads, but good enough out to 250m. But the packet is written up with imaginary velocities. 3200fps yeah my arse. Just used @Ross Nolan's Garmin dopler and through a 22 inch barrel they are actually loafing along at 2950 fps. will now recalculate my dropchart to stick to the butt of my rifle.

Used a bunch of the pmc bronze to get brass, as you say the velocity on the box is unrealistic even for a 24” barrel. It’s about 2900fps out of a 19” ruger.

Originally Posted by XR500

I'm just prepping for the annual Xmas freezer filler trip. Picked up 300 rounds of those 55 grn PMC Bronze cheap. Certainly group OK. Not as tight as handloads, but good enough out to 250m. But the packet is written up with imaginary velocities. 3200fps yeah my arse. Just used @Ross Nolan's Garmin dopler and through a 22 inch barrel they are actually loafing along at 2950 fps. will now recalculate my dropchart to stick to the butt of my rifle.

Shot a lot of deer with 64gr PMC. Top round. Mate still has a few hundred left out of bulk boxes we bought off HnF.

Hi, newish to bush hunting..planning on a superlite howa carbon stock due to weight carrying in bush...looking at 223 mini vs superlite howa 6.5...

From what ive stalked so far ive seen no more than 100 or 180 m visibility e.g. kaimais area...so is 223 all i need?

Originally Posted by greensmurf46

Hi, newish to bush hunting..planning on a superlite howa carbon stock due to weight carrying in bush...looking at 223 mini vs superlite howa 6.5...

From what ive stalked so far ive seen no more than 100 or 180 m visibility e.g. kaimais area...so is 223 all i need?

The Howa Creedmoor. Until you have some experience and get over the jitters using the .223 (especially with factory ammo) is likely to end in tears. Fairer on you and the animals to start with a bit more oomph. Get the .223 when you are really feeling confident with your bush shots.

I agree 💯 with tahr, your other option is a 6.5 grendel Howa mini in a Howa Stocky stock.

Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

6 fellow for the Sako .223 with 77 tmk and 73 eldm not much of a test as all head shot.

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How is the Sako .223 feels like?

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

How is the Sako .223 feels like?

It's an awesome little shooter I really love it.
Shot a couple of reds and quiet a few fallow with it shot it on the range out to 600M

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Originally Posted by greensmurf46

Hi, newish to bush hunting..planning on a superlite howa carbon stock due to weight carrying in bush...looking at 223 mini vs superlite howa 6.5...

From what ive stalked so far ive seen no more than 100 or 180 m visibility e.g. kaimais area...so is 223 all i need?

If you aren't reloading, the full potential of the .223 isn't really available and you're better off with a .243, 6.5CM, etc.