Thread: 223 on deer

The mushroom myth. Found under the off side skin from a lung shot. 80 grn Targex. 90 yards. These mythical mushrooms are meant to be the holy grail. Nah. My experience is that bullets perform best when they penetrate enough to be dangerous and fragment. Always get quicker kills and more trauma when that happens - I find bits of jacket and sometimes the lead splattered about. Lethal.
This one didn’t go down at first and then I blew one up though its shoulder. That fixed it. This mushroom was an exception with Targex-I usually do get a more explosive effect.

Sorry! I must have pulled too hard on the press handle.
Will try to do better!

Originally Posted by TARGEX

Sorry! I must have pulled too hard on the press handle.
Will try to do better!

I don’t think it hit any bone.

Hey 223 experts (and others, I know you'll want to add your 2cents), for deer which would you chose between ELDM 73s and 77 TMKs (my rifle shoots them equally well). Ta.

Originally Posted by Tentman

Hey 223 experts (and others, I know you'll want to add your 2cents), for deer which would you chose between ELDM 73s and 77 TMKs (my rifle shoots them equally well). Ta.

ELDM are way cheaper I like both on game.
But Bruce is the man to answer this @Tahr

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Originally Posted by Tentman

Hey 223 experts (and others, I know you'll want to add your 2cents), for deer which would you chose between ELDM 73s and 77 TMKs (my rifle shoots them equally well). Ta.

Im one of the "others". The difference is not much. Better penetration with the TMK. They are both splatty. You will push the 73grn quicker.
Objectively TMK are the best, but Ive got a couple hundred and don't use them much - too expensive when you include sighting in and practice/mucking about (grrr - gimps 10 shot groups). For their margin of betterness they are too costly.
I use Targex mainly - not for outright superiority - just cos Im tickled that a NZ made bullet performs so well. ELDM are as good.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Im one of the "others". The difference is not much.

Haha - yes? when it's put like that. "NOT" I think.

Originally Posted by Tentman

Hey 223 experts (and others, I know you'll want to add your 2cents), for deer which would you chose between ELDM 73s and 77 TMKs (my rifle shoots them equally well). Ta.

I used the same powder charge for both projectiles and they shot basically the same POI all the way out. The 73 was going a squeeze faster with the same powder which made up for the lower BC. If money was no object, then I’d run the TMK. But to be fair there’s not much in it - just a tad more penetration from the TMK.

Never used the TMK but I’m very happy with the ELDM, I use it as work ammo and use it in different calibres

You use the factory ammo @Fat ninja?

Sure do, in both .223 and .308

If you sip the Rokslide coolaid a lot seem to favour the 77gr TMK in the states.

Not 77TMK, but I use 69TMK and 73ELDM interchangeably. Same load and point of impact out to 300ish, and same affect on crease shot deer out to the same distance. Found both to be very effective.

"Ive got this Dad"
176 yds, 62grn Maker.

That's more like." Hurry up with the knife Dad,time for some fooooooood".