Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by rimubay

I'm getting 2780 with the 73 ELDM out of a 16 inch T3.

That's a lot faster than through our Howa!

Originally Posted by Tahr

70 yards with thermal. Cripes it was hard to get a steady off hand shot. It was dead just near to where it disappeared.

https://youtu.be/zPfI1O0KVZc

Funny you say that about being hard to hold steady with the digital scope.
I have the same issue with my zulus 3-12 on my 7.62x39 bush hunting. Bloody hard to be steady on freehand shots!
I think the issue is actually input lag of the digital scope. We are trying to correct the reticle to the target but the reticle isnt actually in the position we are seeing due to the lag/delay of the device.
@Tahr

Originally Posted by Roarless20

Funny you say that about being hard to hold steady with the digital scope.
I have the same issue with my zulus 3-12 on my 7.62x39 bush hunting. Bloody hard to be steady on freehand shots!
I think the issue is actually input lag of the digital scope. We are trying to correct the reticle to the target but the reticle isnt actually in the position we are seeing due to the lag/delay of the device.
@Tahr

Haven't noticed that but haven't shot off hand with the digital much. That shot was with a thermal. Ive noticed though my heart pounding in my head, my eyes running and the gasping for breath

Originally Posted by Springy

Is it possible to push them that fast in a 223? Factory 73gr ELD-Match are only going 2555fps out of our 16 inch.

My mates Tikka 22" - factory 73gr eldm @ 2725fps

Originally Posted by Tahr

Haven't noticed that but haven't shot off hand with the digital much. That shot was with a thermal. Ive noticed though my heart pounding in my head, my eyes running and the gasping for breath

The thermal is also a digital and will have similar lag.

390 yards. 74 grn Targex.
Bella was so tired you can see that she fell asleep.

What sort of damage are they doing at that distance?

Originally Posted by charliehorse

What sort of damage are they doing at that distance?

@charliehorse I took a pic of the entry through the ribs with the shoulder peeled back. You can see a bit of lung through the rib entry by my finger. That shoulder was broken and ruined. It didn't show any particular sign of impact but I heard the whop. It staggered maybe 10 yards at the most and tipped over.

A good endorsement of the 74g Targex and placement of course

Originally Posted by charliehorse

A good endorsement of the 74g Targex and placement of course

Lucky shot? LOL. Podium for the bro.

What sort of bullet is the Targex 74g?

Originally Posted by Springy

What sort of bullet is the Targex 74g?

Hollow point boat tail. Made in NZ using Berger jackets.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Hollow point boat tail. Made in NZ using Berger jackets.

390 yard with a .223 is pretty impressive regardless of the projectile. the image shows plenty of tissue damage. this sort of performance certainly cast doubt over the old theory that a clean kill on Deer size targets requires a minimum of 1000 foot pounds of terminal energy. In this case there would have been around 700 foot pounds.

Originally Posted by zeropak

390 yard with a .223 is pretty impressive regardless of the projectile. the image shows plenty of tissue damage. this sort of performance certainly cast doubt over the old theory that a clean kill on Deer size targets requires a minimum of 1000 foot pounds of terminal energy. In this case there would have been around 700 foot pounds.

Lucky that deer can't count, I suppose.

Those numbers always seemed reeeeeeealy arbitrary to me. Why 1000 foot pounds and not 1050, or 970? What weighting was given to bullet construction, impact velocity...... yet for decades people have repeated it, and experience here and elsewhere has blown great big holes through the story. Sounds like the science might not be completely settled.

Originally Posted by Tahr

390 yards. 74 grn Targex.
Bella was so tired you can see that she fell asleep.

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Life is good for Bella.

She has somewhere comfy for a nap, and Dad getting a snack ready for when she wakes up.

You do treat that dog very well Bruce.