I'm not sure I'm understanding the assignment here in terms of demonstrating projectile performance. 140m, 69 gr targex. But it's confidence inspiringly accurate.
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I'm not sure I'm understanding the assignment here in terms of demonstrating projectile performance. 140m, 69 gr targex. But it's confidence inspiringly accurate.
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73 eldm the hind at 230M thought it was a gut shot but the angle she was on it pushed it through into the lungs stone dead 20M away.
The spiker was only 20M shot https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6f135633d2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...68e8d9daeb.jpg
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I've been trialing 73 gr ELDM's on Deer, Pigs, Goats for a while now with good success at reasonable ranges. 2 goats for 3 shots at 602 & 620 metres the longest. Casual target testing has shown reasonable accuracy so decided to do a range shoot yesterday at Kaituna Range, 300,500 and 600 yard ranges. light swirling breeze
@ 300 range. Fish-tailing wind from behind at 5 and 6 hundred range with left to right cross-wind at about 350 yards. HOWA 1500 .223, 16" suppressed, GPO scope. Shot using cheap Bi-pod and no support bags/rests. I have detached Vitreous Humour beside Optic Nerve in master/shooting eye so reasonably happy with results. The ELDM's kill well and shoot well but I'll continue using 55GR SP's for most of my hunting, they are good enough most of the time.
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Go and stand by Trout. You two can shoot!
Not really these days. The inner-bull ring is something like 145 mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Going to give these a try in November. 5 shot groups are right an inch from my 18” AR and Salvage Hog Hunter.
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looking good!!!
244 yds and 60grn Hammer. Angled in a foot behind shoulder. It bolted on the shot and Bella found it about 50 yds away
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My son and I went for a wander in a popular McKenzie Basin river valley last Friday evening and were pretty fortunate to shoot a Fallow yearling not long after leaving our vehicle. We continued on up the valley, and my son Peter spotted a Red hind lying under some bushes on the edge of a small clearing. He shot her as well with a .223 (Hornady Match 73gr ELD-M).
Imagine our disappointment to find she had been shot through both front legs just below her knees quite some time earlier (more than a week) and had just been left there to die.
That's terrible, you've done her a huge favour
Shit that is rough all right. You did her a favour. Hopefully meat not too tough being so stressed.
No worse than a hind with a new born at foot which gets shot. The fawn turns out if it survives to be a runt no bigger than a large hare.
Ouch. 74 Targex at 270 yds.
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Good thing you didn't hit any big bones with that little bullet
Please tell me that's a yearling red?? If it's not,Bella is getting huge.
Mature hind. She's a big lump of a dog. You would love her. She not 20 months yet and that was our 53rd deer together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Wooow she is a big girl,down a limping yearling easilly.
To the ones that have used it, just after some.more info on the 52gr targex.
Work because they are explodey, tough etc?
Compare vs old school but reliable 55gr hornady sp
They are soft enough to kill small things but hard enough to get adequate penetration on deer. Using BM2 you can sling them real fast and cover off their low(ish) BC - like in the 3250 fps bracket for a 20" barrel. Ideal for the situation where you are shooting rabbits/wallaby/goats but might come across the odd deer.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
Way back in the day we used Sierra 52 grn Match in 222/223 'cos they were harder than varmint bullets so penetrated, held together and expanded and you mostly found the little hard base at the end of its travels. The 52 Targex is similar but better.
They are very accurate. Better than the 55 grn Hornady? I think so - they seem better on larger deer . But you are talking about small margins.
Ideal for slow twist barrels.
On Wednesday I shot a nanny goat at 455 yards with the 52gn Targex. It was sitting down at the base of a small bank. I aimed at the center of the chest and can't be sure where I hit it (I didn't recover it) but it just rolled over and slid down the bank below. Very satisfying.
A couple using 62 grn Norma I loaded for wallaby but thought I would try on deer, albeit little ones.
200 yds. MV 3180. Arrival velocity 2380. Bullet had no trouble going right through. Probably lead for Africa in the meat :)
Both dropped on the spot
Low chest/heart
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It was broken hearted
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Neck
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Couple of bush hunted Sika from the week.
75gr eldms doing the business.
First one was hardly a test, head shot at about 15 yards as it peered around a tree at me. All energy dumped in the head with no exit.
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Second one was sitting down quartering towards me at about 25 yards. She never stood up. Projectile exited behind the offside shoulder through the ribs.
Get a lot of bang flops on the small bush Sika with the 75gr eldms which is good.
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I read that last comment and can't help but think of the 87grn Hornady in 243 that was so popular for awhile. They must be quite similar broadly speaking. Much quieter and less powder and in smaller action for sure but ,well,you know.
Today I got up at 5am, burned some toast, had a coffee, and climbed a hill. Recovering from covid so not feeling terribly fit. Spotted a chamois from the ridge top and dropped down to have a closer look. Nanny and kid, leave them alone. Had a good hard look at a patch of scrub and eventually located a hind bedded, visible through a small gap in the vegetables. Got a good position with my schedium on top of a tripod and shot her.
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80gr ELDM, 330m, impact V about 2200fps. Shot was 27⁰ downhill angle, quartering to. She ran 10 metres downhill and died. Bullet entered high shoulder, shattered the scapula, broke a rib, went through 1 lung and the heart, and ended up in the gut cavity. She still ran despite the broken bone, it is my observation that breaking front legs doesn't do a lot to stop them running, and heart shots often run.
Knife pointing to entry
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Wound on the inside of the shoulder
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And correspondingly on the ribs
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Lung wound channel. I gave them a rinse in the creek. Big permanent wound cavity and a large zone of extravasation.
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Heart
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Inside rib cage
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Bullet jacket & core as found
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Great photos @gimp.
Great photos @gimp.
Saw a programme on Sky last night about dropping the A Bomb on Japan. Neither Hiroshima or Ngasaki had that much damage. Unreal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dama dama
I don't really understand where you are coming from , but here's some info for yaQuote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
By the end of 1945, the bombing had killed an estimated 140,000 people in Hiroshima, and a further 74,000 in Nagasaki. In the years that followed, many of the survivors would face leukemia, cancer, or other terrible side effects from the radiation.
You are just like my old man carrying around a steel ruler like that...!Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
That’s the measure of a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billbob
Doing things well.
Called a metaphor. Comprende.Quote:
Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS
A schmedium is a particular shooting bag. Any bag of the type works but it is the one that I have, with very light fill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Plonked on top of a generic lightweight tripod it's a stable rest for a good sitting position like so
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Looks stable and a bit steadier than sitting on your arse and resting on your knees!
Is that a reprofiled Mountain Skinner?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
No, it's a saddle mountain hunter, an old discontinued model. I've had it for maybe 10 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by inglishill
I’m with you HILLBILLYHUNTER. I’ll go with initial reaction. Stupid fucking comment. My father was over there shortly after the bombs dropped. His photos showed total devestation and what he saw shuck with Him the rest of his life. Rarely did he talk of it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS
The light one is 1.2 lbQuote:
Originally Posted by gimp
https://armageddongear.com/product/s...-shooting-bag/
Mine is actually about 360 grams - much lighter than indicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I have it for precision rifle competition but it is such a stable rest that I have been experimenting with taking it hunting for front-country day trips.
The busted shoulder thing you mentioned. Here's a similar shot and a run with a broken shoulder. It was well dead on its feet but still got 100 yards. 77TMK.Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpHZn17dvNg
