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I know it's not on dear but tried the .223 and 77tmk at 300m today managed a good group but didn't score very well.
Now that load is ready for some deer I just need to check the zero before Stewart island https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1eb1a1e7bb.jpg
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340 yards, with 74 Targex again. The tip over was a bit slow from a central shoulder shot so it got another one from steep down hill between the shoulders. That did it. I spend way too much time floundering around in the dark nowadays. Saw 5 before dark but all hinds and fawns, and 25 mixed sex in the first hour after sun set. This one is going to a charity for the disabled (all kosher). Got another one at the same time but no pic cos Brian went and got it. 254 yds and one shoulder shot.
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Good shooting. Is that one group or did you correct for the one in the middle? (those bullets are in my truck, must post them!)Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
Vid: https://youtu.be/muEBjYjtZEQQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Just one group the inner and one of the 8 were sighters then fired the other 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
It was hard as not allowed spotting scope and 12 power max so couldn't spot my shots.
After the sighters I was in 2 minds as to which shot I pulled and of cause it was the inner so then put the next 3 with 1 of my sighters.
But happy with the group.
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Like 25/08 IMP not a deer but target at 300yds. 73gr ELDM’s. Change of powder from Varget to 2208. Variable breeze from right about 1moa. Work in progress but nearly good enough for use on game. Attachment 269025
Varget is 2208?
What’s your MV of that load? The target chrono surely cant be right- I’m seeing 1850 fps at almost 500yds.Quote:
Originally Posted by woods223
If he is setting off at 2,900 fps (which is easily achievable with a plus 20" barrel) it should be circa 1900 fps at 500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick
Not sure if 2900 is possible in a 20" barrel with 2208. For me 25gn 2208 behind a 73gn ELDM in a 20" barrel, is around 2780fps. that's a compressed load, I reckon 25.5gn of 2208 would be about the max that could be fitted into a .223 case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Is that target not 300Y
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@Springy - where's your .223'd deer pic??
Using 2208 same cases and projectiles. Using slightly less powder than Varget. Getting pressure signs with 2208 before getting to Varget load levels. 16” Howa. Seems to start showing pressure signs well before 25 gr. like tight bolt lift and pierced primers.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
@Tahr I'll post it up this evening 👍👍
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Originally Posted by Springy
- Get
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Originally Posted by Gibo
- Here
- You
- Go hahaha!
@Tahr @Gibo
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Yearling male, 73gr ELD-Match. They aren't going fast out of our little Howa 16-inch but man they are accurate!
69gr Targex at work this was 1 of 2.
Rather happy the rifle came to work with me today.
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80 Targex exit, 100 yards. Licked clean by Bella.
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The other night. Charity stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhBvbBg934o
Even at just 90 yards away the dog is invaluable for finding the shot ones in the dark. It can be quite diss-orienting looking through thermals and night vision.
I missed one the other evening, like I do, and she back tracked it right to the bullet hole in the ground. She actually went up and sniffed the actual hole.
The mushroom myth. Found under the off side skin from a lung shot. 80 grn Targex. 90 yards. These mythical mushrooms are meant to be the holy grail. Nah. My experience is that bullets perform best when they penetrate enough to be dangerous and fragment. Always get quicker kills and more trauma when that happens - I find bits of jacket and sometimes the lead splattered about. Lethal.
This one didn’t go down at first and then I blew one up though its shoulder. That fixed it. This mushroom was an exception with Targex-I usually do get a more explosive effect.
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Sorry! I must have pulled too hard on the press handle.
Will try to do better!
Clever dog, I had an English smooth hair fox terrier that would show me the bullet hole in the groundQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I don’t think it hit any bone.Quote:
Originally Posted by TARGEX
Hey 223 experts (and others, I know you'll want to add your 2cents), for deer which would you chose between ELDM 73s and 77 TMKs (my rifle shoots them equally well). Ta.
ELDM are way cheaper I like both on game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
But Bruce is the man to answer this @Tahr
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Never used the TMK but I’m very happy with the ELDM, I use it as work ammo and use it in different calibres
You use the factory ammo @Fat ninja?
Sure do, in both .223 and .308
Im one of the "others". The difference is not much. Better penetration with the TMK. They are both splatty. You will push the 73grn quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
Objectively TMK are the best, but Ive got a couple hundred and don't use them much - too expensive when you include sighting in and practice/mucking about (grrr - gimps 10 shot groups). For their margin of betterness they are too costly.
I use Targex mainly - not for outright superiority - just cos Im tickled that a NZ made bullet performs so well. ELDM are as good.
Haha - yes? when it's put like that. "NOT" I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I used the same powder charge for both projectiles and they shot basically the same POI all the way out. The 73 was going a squeeze faster with the same powder which made up for the lower BC. If money was no object, then I’d run the TMK. But to be fair there’s not much in it - just a tad more penetration from the TMK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
If you sip the Rokslide coolaid a lot seem to favour the 77gr TMK in the states.
Not 77TMK, but I use 69TMK and 73ELDM interchangeably. Same load and point of impact out to 300ish, and same affect on crease shot deer out to the same distance. Found both to be very effective.
"Ive got this Dad"
176 yds, 62grn Maker.
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That's more like." Hurry up with the knife Dad,time for some fooooooood".
Its taken 84 deer to teach her to sit back and wait rather than try to help herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I call BS! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
@craigc Nah. That one I actually got her to wait. It took about 20 "get out of it Bell" and and 10 "F... offs" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by craigc
That’s why I love hunting with you! :-)Quote:
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How does Bella respond to the less than Kings English.Quote:
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