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If a .223 is the only rifle you have, you will use it as an all rounder and will probably be happy once you figure out the limitations that make you unhappy.
If a .223 is one of a safe full, you will use it for dedicated purposes because you will have learned its limitations that made you unhappy, and you will be happy.
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not with ammo at these prices...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spook
223 as an all rounder ,,,,, don't think so. if you read some of the old books on dear culling there were good shooters using 222 s but I guess some of them didn't care if a wounded animal run off to die slowly when deer were considered a pest and numbers were high. Personally I like the 243 for Sika and bush shooting and for me its great but I still know its limitations regarding long shots at the tops.
Deer can be far and few at times so i want to be sure a well placed shot is going to kill as quickly as possible. i took a mate shooting a few years ago, he was ex army, good sort and keen as mustard. We came across some good sized reds in the bush and he took the first shot. it connected but not in the right spot, never saw that animal again!!
it put both of us using small calibers for larger game, but every one to their own.
U should read wot scribe wrote about 223 caliber of choice. Very intresting.. Just find the post in here somewhere.
So, this is a good solid stag and demonstrates the typical performance of the 55grn TTSX. The mark you can see on his shoulder is the exit. I shot him in the ribs on the other side. Range 230 yards. He dropped on the spot. I've shot plenty of deer with the same load and this is what I've come to expect up to 250 yards or so.
For any further I flick in a 69 grn Targex.
Modern well made bullets and faster twists have revolutionized the .223.
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I'm doing a tour of the Ruahines soon, and my super light little .223 is what I will carry.
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Originally Posted by gadgetman
I recon I could hit that rock at 900m with my Remington Speedmaster 22 rimfire ........... with one eye closed :)
Cheers
Pete
What's your targex load? I tried loading some just recently but struggled. I was using bm2 and used the adi data for the sierra 69 bthp. I think 21.5 - 23.5 from memory. 2800 fps at max, but no pressure signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
26 grns 2206, Norma brass. 3k 20" barrel. Wonderfully accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leadfoot
Be careful with that load , eh. I'm using good cases. Usual work up. In my rifle its about .2grn off pressure signs.
Thanks. I'm using Norma brass but might try 2206h. What's your oal? I went to 2.35" but I need to seat it back further or do the mag mod.
Just mag length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leadfoot
I suspect a lot of the .223's reputation has to do with the fact that its considered a specialist Deer caliber used by experienced shooters.
You have to pick your shots and deliver the projectile in the exact place to be successful .
Well I can tell you right now that my 7mm Mag barrel on my Blaser isn't the answer to all questions and no matter what your shooting at you should still have the .223 mindset and place the bullet precisely .
If you use a .223 for long enough it will make your bigger calibers even more efficient .
Ken
Ken
That's a great point. I started out shooting possums with an air rifle and to kill a possum with an air rifle you have to be spot on. I put a lot of time into being accurate and most possums were one shot kills to the chestQuote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
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