There used to be another access in via Mangakahu Valley Road
Piro Piro Flats - great party atmosphere - but yes like Q Street
The Mangakahu option if it is still open be a better bet - not sure what access and if old lodge/hut still there but it also could be like the M1 nowadays
Was good hunting through into the Tiringamutu - and good access up onto the Hauhungaroa Range
Back up under Tuhua held good Deer too - but it was not pleasant bush if you went wrong
Roared well in there - but again - I am talking back a few decades :-)
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