Thread: Better Hunting - free online NZ hunter training programme by the Game Animal Council

Originally Posted by STC

i repeat my question:

what have they done, or what do you perceive them to have done that warrants such a strong reaction?

we as NZ hunters have free and unrestricted access to the public Conservation estate - its is yes a privilege but it is also a legal right - why do we need a quasi semi govt organization to tell us what we can and cannot do on public land and yes under the act they work under they can do just that - ask overseas hunters who have to endure all sorts of bloody rigmarole to hunt - they are damn jealous of what we have -why change it - this GAC came about because the govt of the day after an election needed more numbers in parliament - they imported an MP and this GAC was the bargaining chip - we do not need it

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

we as NZ hunters have free and unrestricted access to the public Conservation estate - its is yes a privilege but it is also a legal right - why do we need a quasi semi govt organization to tell us what we can and cannot do on public land and yes under the act they work under they can do just that - ask overseas hunters who have to endure all sorts of bloody rigmarole to hunt - they are damn jealous of what we have -why change it - this GAC came about because the govt of the day after an election needed more numbers in parliament - they imported an MP and this GAC was the bargaining chip - we do not need it

And a lot of overseas hunters also think it's crazy that we can shoot what we want, when we want, with no regard to game management.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

And a lot of overseas hunters also think it's crazy that we can shoot what we want, when we want, with no regard to game management.

yes thats true but for most their deer are endemic to their country ( largely some exceptions eg muntjac sika in England ) how would you like to work by USA rules and only be allowed to shoot a few each year and only in a season - not nice at all - sit and polish rifles for a lot of the year - no we have it really great - lets keep it that way

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

yes thats true but for most their deer are endemic to their country ( largely some exceptions eg muntjac sika in England ) how would you like to work by USA rules and only be allowed to shoot a few each year and only in a season - not nice at all - sit and polish rifles for a lot of the year - no we have it really great - lets keep it that way

LarryB asked that we don't derail his thread.
Start another thread and get in to it there.
But I will say here that you are expressing the exact sentiments I described about kiwi attitude earlier.
You are also cherry picking information about hunting in America. It is possible to shoot quite a few animals each year if you want to put some effort in.
Start another thread if you wish to continue this topic.
Sorry for the derail @LarryB. What you are doing is great.
Talking with the likes of Tui, Pania, Dave Benfell etc who provide similar sounding opportunities for hunters, they can not keep up with demand.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

we as NZ hunters have free and unrestricted access to the public Conservation estate - its is yes a privilege but it is also a legal right - why do we need a quasi semi govt organization to tell us what we can and cannot do on public land and yes under the act they work under they can do just that - ask overseas hunters who have to endure all sorts of bloody rigmarole to hunt - they are damn jealous of what we have -why change it - this GAC came about because the govt of the day after an election needed more numbers in parliament - they imported an MP and this GAC was the bargaining chip - we do not need it

Back when I started hunting (and probably you too) hunters were the majority of the people using the public estate. We were taught common sense from birth, before it was displaced by political correctness, & we learnt how to look after ourselves when got off the beaten track. Kids today spend too much time on 1 electronic device or another & are very unaware of the real world around them so need to have some sort of formal training. Also more & more facilities are being provided for non hunters, such as trampers & cyclists, to use the public lands so hunters need to be educated to the fact we are sharing the land & behave accordingly.