Thread: Buller /Tasman biggest 1080 drop in history this spring

Originally Posted by kiwijames

and the solution is???? this is the real kicker. Plenty of armchair pseudo science PHDs in biology/chemistry/philosophy/physics/economics/politics and yet, after how many years, why has there not been a better solution arrived at? or do we blame DOC/AHB for this failing as well? and don't come back with the tired old (and totally unbelievable) "1080 gravy train dribble either, or you've got you're 3 strikes and are straight to Ignorant Island.
How does a small country with a tiny GDP and vast tracts of public owned wilderness maintain its biodiversity plus support an agri business economy that creates the bulk of the revenue? See the vicious circle?
I doubt anyone would argue 1080 is anything more than a crude tool, but ist the only viable tool we have that can do the job no one else wants to do.
If you REALY want something to lose sleep over try looking at cadmium soil contamination across NZ, or the even more concerning water quality and water shortages occurring across NZ. North Canterbury just lost its fresh water fishing season due to contamination WTF and the Ashburton Council water consent debacle is madness in my eyes but i suppose these real issues don't remove a few deer from some chumps fav bush block so aren't anywhere near as relevant, plus theres no easy scapegoat here.
These are real problems we face in the short term, not the "1080 problem that wasn't".

Sorry, theres people on one side of the fence and people on the other. Its pointless trying to argue the point of your view compared to the other view you dont believe as you not going to change either sides view. You say the "1080 gravy train "is B/S.
Many on the other side would say you in total dreamland if you believe that.
So you think water quality is a bigger issue than tons of toxic poison thats banned in most of the world being dropped around the countryside willy nilly .
Well, did you think tons of 1080 being dropped in streams and rivers , dead animals lying in streams and rivers, the by kill of trout that eat 1080 mice, eels, the fresh water crayfish and who knows what else that die from 1080 or get 1080 poisoning isnt a factor in poor water quality as well??
Do we actually know what the long term effect of 1080 is actually going to do to the countryside and living things in it., do we know if the insects that eat dead matter on 1080 animals and then get eaten by birds is having a impact on bird numbers, or breeding?
The answer is NO, but one thing is for sure, it isnt actually going to be good and we can all agree on that.
I could go on, but heres the thing, you in one camp or the other.
Both feel strongly that the other sides view is ridiculous. B/S in actually fact, and nothings going to change that. So, you believe what you like, i believe what i like , you know im wrong, i KNOW you wrong, thats life