Thread: Choppers shooting during roar peroid.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Wonder if the chopper boys have ever taken incoming?

Not recently but back many years when it started it was common. Aircraft Mechanic mate of Dad's in Gore used to complain about it.
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Ed to add. Google deer wars, shootings, arson, sabotage both by ground shooters and compeditors. Airforce ended up being sent in to monitor.
https://teara.govt.nz/en/deer-and-deer-farming/page-2

Originally Posted by caberslash

Wonder if the chopper boys have ever taken incoming?

35-40yrs ago when deer were worth $$$ and helicopters were going in to guys back paddocks. there was a pilot got shot in the arse In the hills of gisborne. The farm had put a warning in local papers about poaching in helicopters and one day he had enough, the bullet went through helicopter in to the pilots arse. Helicopter had to make a emergency landing on the property. Farmer made the call to police to say he thinks a helicopter has been shoot.
that ended the poaching on the property.
Farmer was taking to court but the bullet that was found never match any of the farmers guns so unsure who fired shot, farmer was found not guilty

Totally different to waro on doc land

Originally Posted by Moutere

Weather and season dictate where to hunt, too dynamic for public notice.

Moralities aside, have they operated outside of their concession?
I get you’re venting, but you’re frustration should be aimed at DOC rather than the operator.
DOC are inviting submissions currently on WARO.




Don’t recall any legitimate near misses in the last 60 years aerial recovery has been undertaken.
Not saying it’s never happened, just that if it was a genuine issue it would have presented by now.

Not in NZ but of there is someone identified on the ground it would be at least polite to get the hell away from them. Being they are underpower.
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A vessel under power gives way to a vessel under sail.

Choppers shoot directly down at short range but they sure as hell would not want hunters firing in their vicinity.

Yeah be hard for them to ensure there firing line is safe from a chopper, for all they know a ground hunter/tramper could be behind the deer. Seems like an accident waiting to happen to me

Yes very annoying when that happens, I was stalking some flats years ago just on day break when a chopper shot a couple deer 100m from me.
https://youtu.be/2bv5zpgVmgE

If your mates are concerned about the safety of it they could complain to DOC but history says nothing will happen…..

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Yes very annoying when that happens, I was stalking some flats years ago just on day break when a chopper shot a couple deer 100m from me.
https://youtu.be/2bv5zpgVmgE

If your mates are concerned about the safety of it they could complain to DOC but history says nothing will happen…..

Report it to CAA and WorkSafe as an incident if it was a close call. There is give and take in the outdoor pursuits, but this seems like a fatality waiting to happen.

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Yes very annoying when that happens, I was stalking some flats years ago just on day break when a chopper shot a couple deer 100m from me.
https://youtu.be/2bv5zpgVmgE

If your mates are concerned about the safety of it they could complain to DOC but history says nothing will happen…..

Yep has happened many times when tahr hunting. But as you say nothing happens, they are just getting in there before there cut of period for the roar. But its a shame they have to pick a spot where stags roar early and gets a lot of foot traffic. They are also very close to private land but that may be totally legit too. Just very frustrating as you say.

I can see it now

Private hunters banned from DOC land due to rising concerns from WARO operators.

I can see it now…Hunter found halfway out in the Tasman with two bullet holes in him

Only some ballot blocks are restricted to WARO during roar period. Ballot periods haven't started yet.
If Alpine were operating within their concession area and rules, they've done nothing wrong. Unfortunately it's one of those public land risks we take, but WARO is a necessary evil. It's better than search and destroy operations.
Chances are they didn't see your mates, people can be very hard to see from a helicopter when they're standing on the hill, even at close range.
If they did see them, bit shitty they didn't bugger off over the hill, but not really surprised if that was the case.

DOC have all the data they need don't they? If you tick the areas you might hunt during the hunting permit period then they just need to email that list when they get notified by WARO operators of planned operational days. Not hard. I know it doesn't cover the immediate frustration but it would go someway towards covering HnS and might save wasted time heading into a block if you get pinged that WARO could be in there the same time.

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Originally Posted by Ned

DOC have all the data they need don't they? If you tick the areas you might hunt during the hunting permit period then they just need to email that list when they get notified by WARO operators of planned operational days. Not hard. I know it doesn't cover the immediate frustration but it would go someway towards covering HnS and might save wasted time heading into a block if you get pinged that WARO could be in there the same time.

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Might work for those that have permits, but how many bother?

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

Might work for those that have permits, but how many bother?

Nearly everybody I hunt or shoot with has a permit, so easy to get online, and lasts 4 months.

[QUOTE=Moutere;1292702]Weather and season dictate where to hunt, too dynamic for public notice.

Moralities aside, have they operated outside of their concession?
I get you’re venting, but you’re frustration should be aimed at DOC rather than the operator.

But surely the operator has some responsibility to check over the area for foot hunters first, or at least try.? Before they start blasting. Easily done i would have thought in open country like this, not so much in thicker areas i guess.

Jeez, you guys have it sweet down South, deer roaring in March, walk in, deer roaring in gully open enough for helicopters to operate (I guess they retrieve as well), 2 weeks in the South and then move North for another roar.