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New World & Repco are behind the high wall.
The airport runway is just beyond the hedge row.
The Villas are behind me when shooting.
One old fella came out and took my photo holding a dead goose to show his wife saying, "You're a bloody hero mate!"
I fired 5 rounds of triple two for four birds, then went 150 metres away and shot 2 for 2!
Happy Days!
Always exciting doing shooting jobs inside city limits when much can go wrong. I worked for the RC Pest Function here in the BOP and we had a few jobs around Rotorua and other areas to deal with from time to time such as rabbits and hares in newly planted retirement areas etc. I think the key to success was doing your homework on the lay of the land, knowing where the hazards were, and good notification of the locals and keeping the Police well informed.
By all accounts that job you did went well so well done.
Amazes me the fire power you are using, around built up areas, obvious long shots. I shoot life style blocks and horse paddocks. All my shooting is done at night. With night vision, hand held thermal, & a PCP air rifle at 35 fps all is as quiet as a mouse.
Recently did some extermination, two of us with 223 doing the count down fire, rabbits in the middle of the day, great fun, but that was out on farm land.
Having just closed two mounds on our range due to flooding on the range floors which significantly raises the ricochet hazard I'd say you were taking a considerable risk shooting in that environment. Just my opinion.
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is that a temporary closure? surely they would reopen when the water level lowers.Quote:
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By using varmits type projectiles you have somewhat mitigated risk.by HITTING target you have pretty much expended any further risk they pose. I'm sure you took background into account.
Belmont made a run of frangible 223 at one stage. It would disintegrate on impact with a hare.
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We are all quite well aware what can go wrong with culling geese in built up areas.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kapiti-ne...H6ZQHNTNH72BY/
But fear not, bullet ricochets are safe :wtfsmilie: “Had that bullet or bullet fragment hit a person, in my professional opinion, it would have at most resulted in a bruise,” the contractor’s email said.
Day time shot 73 yards PCP at 35 ftp 18 JSB pellet, Pard Night vision scope, gets the job done, queitly
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Gidday @flock I have to ask the question, have you ever shot a Canada Goose with your PCP at 70 odd metres?
As a general rule of thumb, anything which is shot in the (vital part) of the head will die. Sometimes instantly, sometimes after some theatrical. From the rabbit photo it looks like the PCP would do the job.
But when the birds are no longer sitting pretty, and are milling around squarking, would you be confident killing them quickly, with one pallet to the body? Or would they become FLAPPERS!?
In my work I cannot afford to have flapper! As I said before, there are six staff watching me and 8 to 12 Villas looking down onto the pond. I need instantaneous kills with no drama. I can't be seen to treating animals "inhumanely" or "cruelly."
The worst case scenario, which I'm trying to avoid, is a flapper going over the fence into the New World carpark where is goes flapping around circles, bleeding out in front of Granny and the kids, with me or someone else running around after it, trying to kick it to death. Just imagine what that would look like on social media and the six o'clock news!
Last question about your PCP (I know nothing about these) is it a bolt action repeater? A semi automatic? Or do you hand feed each pallet?
What's a PCP ?
Don't know how geese would react at night, but pigeans don't tend to fly when its dark example https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A-xRHh-pVBA
PCP has a air tank which is pumped up to 3000 psi and at fullpower I get roughly 80 shots. Pigeons I adjust the power down to half & get 150 shots. Handy to reduce power as to not blow holes threw roof iron & other damage.
Prenty of footage Uk clearing rats etc they run 12 fps with out needing a firearms licence. All PCPs require a firearms licence in NZ.
Mine is the FX wildcat M3, I have 2 18 shot mags. Running a, Pard 0800lrf night vision scope which ranges the gives me the hold over to aim for, programed in, so all I have to think about is windage. Accuracy, it pisses on a 22lr.
Only using pellets but if you have more grunt you can use the latest & greatest Slugs with a higher weight & BC people are shooting way beyond pellet performance.
Have a Geese proble down here in ChCh but the hoops to get threw to do that, it's impossible.
Have seen them mentioned on here before but never knew what they were, cheers for the explanation :)Quote:
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Pcp is pre charged pneumatic air rifle i have one as well it would be more accurate than my 22lrs, just not as heavy pill
So have any PCP owners every shot a Canada Goose through the brisket, or side on, at long range, 60 - 100 metres? What was the out come? Flapper or instant death? Would a PCP be your preferred calibre at long range?
Havnt shot one but being such a light pellet it probably wouldnt have the energy. Shot one on the weekend with my 6.5 grendel 120m made a mess of it
85gr hollow point
I also use a suppressed 17hmr which would be effective on a body shot on a goose. Just the price of ammo has become, over the top. Geese are stroppy buggers, so under stand HSs point of view.
My experience of Canada's is nobbing as many as possible in the absolute vitals (either brain or chest) at pretty close range with a suppressed .22LR on farmer's paddocks where the bastards were both destroying crops and destroying the paddock for stock due to crapping everywhere and basically just poisoning the outfit.
Got a couple of goes at them before they learned, and even suppressed .22LR did not drop the things reliably with a clean hit taking out the hydraulics and pneumatics at the same time. Headshots dropped them no problem. This was on farm land with no proximity and approved culling situation, and as I mentioned being able to be sneaky and hook up close using cover with not much concern with fire lines and obstructions in the cone of fire. The OP's job with close proximity, witnesses, the general reluctance of geese to cooperate all weigh on my level of confidence to even consider a PCP - I'd be looking at something in the famous 'especially dangerous' category as a minimum to get the pellet energy way up so no advantage over a proper rifle that I can see... My 2 cents worth anyway.
an accurate semi 22mag might be a possibilty?
Guess the experiment would be, at night, closer range 30 to 50 yards, infared scope, all head shots. The question is would the other geese go crazy. Being Geese, some say they are better security, than a dog.
At least at night you won't have an audience. Plenty of time to let them settle as they can't see you, the biggest fright for the other birds, will be the smack of the head shot & flapping bird. Worth a try, on a quiet dark night.
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PCPs come in .25 and .30 cal also don’t they? Maybe even 6mm?
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Been a while since I was really into them but used to come in 50 cal as well
I've spent a bit of time on Google studying both the anatomy and skeleton structure of Canada Goose too work out the best bullet placement. I could get all the organs and skeleton in one image so the attached is the digestive system and I've added in the lungs and heart. Too my surprise the "Engine Room" is further forward than I initially thought. I think I was hitting them too far back, above the leg, when I first started. Now I'm aiming pretty much at the base of the neck, down a bit from the top, specifically to take out the lungs and spine. It's a pretty quick kill, with rapid projectile expansion on bone, whilst at the same time not damaging the breast meat and Drumsticks. Also there is no power shit in the meat! YUM!
I've printed and marked up images of geese with targets pasted in the correct kill zones for practice. Attachment 260529
Yep that's gold, we were trying for head on shots to the engine room and just down from the base of the neck. Even with that area wrecked the damn things could create a fair bit of mayhem though. Headshots were more reliable but a little movement and a big whoops...
Only shot a couple of geese with the 22lr. Neighbors pet geese at night were lifting the frost cloth of their own market garden, and eating all of the seedlings. Pretty easy to get close at night, and the NV gear made the shooting pretty easy. After a head shot they flapped around for quite a bit. It's mate right next to it didn't seem to care.
But this was at 20M, so not exactly challenging.
I use a 17 Hornet generally for culling birds. Fast enough for a frangible bullet to vaporise on contact with anything, and plenty of oomph and range to make instant kills on Pukeko and larger birds.
Wouldnt buggerise round prevericating team .
The breeding hormones are stirrring and there cannae buggers will be off to the high country to breed ,and believe me you wont get within coooe of em .
If you do well they react like a hereford bull with a humungous hangover topped off with PMT.
BTW that report cam e from fisherman and runners who innocently stumbled over them not walking logs with bangsticks intent on mischeif!
Mr Canada aint referred to a s the king of all gamebrds and the most paranoid for nowt.
Guy brought up on the Wcoast, as a kid he used to catch pheasants, with a thing he called a dunce cap, believe he feed them then put feed in some sort of cap / sock, whatever. They could get it off so just a matter whack on the nut, job done. Some one else that know more, & chime in.
You are a Brave man @Hugh Shields!
I moved too a new farm last year and its predominantly flat with a number of houses within 3K on 3 sides. Too be fair I miss the old hill country where nearly every shot was safe!
Now I take quite some time to process my shot angles and backstops and what firearm Ill use.
More pigeons with a PCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkhRrGPMG_c&t=1s
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Agree have to be close range & using a tripod, pretty steady & quick.
