Hey I wasnt complaining about the weight :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
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Hey I wasnt complaining about the weight :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
I have to agree . . . . they don't look as sexy with a suppressor . . . . lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
Yeah you won't look as sexy with hearing aids though
The pro's far outweigh the con's in my experience. The only real con is extra weight, which is pretty minimal, and even if you decide a suppressor isn't what you want for all occasions, just unscrew it and screw on a brake for days when you want to make more noise/walk further. On one of my rifles there is a minimal POI change, but it is a consistent vertical shift, so I just come up a few clicks when I put the suppressor on, on the others, there is no difference in POI.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rifleman
When I'm taking the kids shooting, I try to have them shoot the suppressed guns whenever possible. Firstly, it helps protect their hearing, and secondly their shooting improves a lot faster when they aren't flinching due to the noise. If you want to get your son shooting, then a suppressor is a great teaching tool.
Some rifles suit em some don't
Did you flick the Mae onto someone Logan ? It is a seriously heavy bit of stainless ehQuote:
Originally Posted by logesearle
I have a Hardy GEN4 suppressor on my T3 7/08 (20" tube).
Cons:
- It reduces recoil
- It reduces noise
- It tightened up my groups (marginally)
- It increased my shooting confidence
- It is very lightweight
- It is nice and compact - minimal length
I absolutely hate my suppressor.... piece of sh*t alright!
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I have a Hardy Gen4 being fitted as I type . . . . . yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Join the fight against normality, fit a lounder................................ :)
.My 223 is suppressed but the more thought I give it the more likely it is that my new gun will be suppressor less and wear a brake on the range only,
gives me an excuse to buy another gun later if I need a suppressed rifle in a "mans" calibre for when the dog is with me.
I don't think a suppressor actually "removes" much in the way recoil it just removes the bloody big bang which gives a perception of less recoil
A suppressor traps a lot of the gasses which follow the bullet, in an unsuppressed rifle they exit the muzzle like a rocket engine and continue to drive the rifle back after the bullet has left the muzzle. A suppressor traps these gasses along with the bang and releases them slowly so thus you do get a reduction in recoil as there is less thrust being generated by the gasses.
It makes more of a difference in an overbore calibre as there is a lot more gas being pushed out of a narrow bore.
A brake uses this gas and reverses the thrust, thus dramatically reducing the felt recoil.
I was wondering when someone was going to mention differences of muzzle brakes and suppressors.
Con: cost to bloody much
When at the same point; do I suppress my 270WSM(150gr berger at 3160fps)? I went down the removable muzzle brake route, now shoots like a 223 and cost less than $240 fitted.
Hearing protection should still be used with suppressors, therefore, might as well get the recoil under control.......properly.
Carry the brake in my belt or Bino pack, thread protector on and ready for the quick shot in the bush. Once found an animal at distance, time to put the brake on. The point of impact change with it on or off is not significant at 250 yards (is only 1.5" high and 0.5 to the Left with it off).
Yeah decided I didn't really need it, and the gun ended up being quite heavy with the suppressor + Boyds stock + bipod + VX3Quote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
Ugly rifle is only human opinion deer pigs goats etc don't care they are dead going to be dead or running away.....
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Thats like saying "ugly women are only a human opinion, they all have vaginas!" :pQuote:
Originally Posted by tiroatedson
Who's brake did you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by Uplandstalker
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Put one of Dean Maisey's Quatromax, fitted by Robbie at Gunworks. Dont let anyone tell you that you need a directional brake, maybe on a larger caliber, but certainly not on a 270WSM.Quote:
Originally Posted by puku
Ill dig out some photos and video of it in action.
Or get the Varimax QC and have no point of impact change with the brake open or closed! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Uplandstalker
Video showing the brake in action.Quote:
Originally Posted by puku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6gbGM2rnb4
If I did it again, I would be running one of these Varimax QC too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt2308
Have run suppressors on air rifles, .17hmr, .22lr, .223ai, 270win and a .410 shotgun.
It's the size and weight that puts me off on the bigger calibers, as the suppressors tend to be quite big and heavy.
I wouldn't be without one on the .17hmr or .22lr as they are small and light and I didn't really see any disadvantages.
Currently I'm running a Varimax QC brake on my .270wsm and I'm very happy with it!
For the high country hunting that the rifle often gets carried on, the added weight of a suppressor would have been a BIG disadvantage for the many K's it gets carried and the vertical meters travelled.
I'd rather have the weight in my pack in the form of a set of electronic ear defenders or even just a pair of foam earplugs if weight is an issue.
If mainly bush stalking or just covering a lot less K's then I'd probably be putting a suppressor back on the rifle, even though they can be a pig to carry, upsetting the rifles balance when the rifle is on your shoulder.
I still think I'll put a suppressor on my 223MAX at some point, and it will most likely be a Gunworks due to price, Robbie and the team are great to deal with and the fact that I drive past there place twice a day.
I'm thinking of suppressing my 7mm08. The issue some people have with the suppressor being visible in the scope at lower power, is it a big issue when shooting? Or is it something that can be lived with?
I can see mine at low power. No biggieQuote:
Originally Posted by winga
I can see the end of my barrel on low power with no can.
I like it... its like playing halo [emoji23]
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Me too but whats Halo??Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
It was a shoot aliens game on xbox.
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I only see deer when I look through my scope... 😀
true..? I'll have to actually have a look at mine tonight then. Since I've never noticed, then it can't be an issue. That answers that question then. Cheers
Still not sure weather to put one on or not?
But for all off this thread nobody has mentioned that you must take them off when storing your guns!
Taking a suppressor off is hardly a chore worth mentioning.
No but for those that don't know, if you leave it on it will ruin your barrel faster than you can imagineQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
I imagine a condom would do the same to your wanger............ you don't need to be reminded to take that off LOL
The balance while carrying on shoulder can be fixed/countered by slinging rifle across your front with off hand rested at pistol grip...works great on all 3 of mine.
Not reading the whole thread. Supressors are dumb. Love loudeners. Uh what did you say?
No regrets what-so-ever! When ever possible i'll always suppress a firearm now after doing my first. Tried and shot a few brands now, imo Waitaki Engineering best of the lot!
Never had the issue personally. Depends how low your scope is sitting to your barrel, so if it is a issue just get higher rings. Job done! IMO saving those ears is a pro that can't be overlooked! We don't get another set of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by winga
Now that is a dumb idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dublin
You will see the end of the barrel/suppressor if your scope has good field of view and/or your barrel is long.
lifting the scope high enough to not see the barrel or suppressor would in most cases make the rifle all but unusable.
Nah mate its a 308, chop it to 16" and suppress with DPT - It will end up shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo