Thread: Copeland Valley - First Thar and/or Chamios Trip

Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

While the coast side of the hill may be different, these ones on the east side of the pass were at 1400m. But the bulls were still higher, closer to 2000m. The snow is currently high, but there is plenty of time for that the change!

Expect to see people too, not just Tahr.

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As the snow line decreases in altitude would you expect to see then get lower.. I'm not to fond of the idea of heading up some of the creeks depending on the avalance risk. Will have to assess on the day of course.

Yea I'm expecting to see people between the trail head and welcome flat, kind of hoping people don't venture much past welcome flat.

Originally Posted by ecw23able

As the snow line decreases in altitude would you expect to see then get lower.. I'm not to fond of the idea of heading up some of the creeks depending on the avalance risk. Will have to assess on the day of course.

Yea I'm expecting to see people between the trail head and welcome flat, kind of hoping people don't venture much past welcome flat.

I've found when it snows the tahr move UP.
The big old bulls will be standing on an exposed ridge in the wind where its -freezeyournoseoff degrees.

A few people will go past welcome flat up to Douglas Rock hut, often for a day trip. It's around 3-4 hrs no glassing up to Douglas hut, past there it's snow poles and a fairly decent trail up to the base of the main divide.

http://www.avalanche.net.nz is a good resource. Along with calling the Franz and Mt Cook DoC office.

Originally Posted by Joe_90

I've found when it snows the tahr move UP.
The big old bulls will be standing on an exposed ridge in the wind where its -freezeyournoseoff degrees.

A few people will go past welcome flat up to Douglas Rock hut, often for a day trip. It's around 3-4 hrs no glassing up to Douglas hut, past there it's snow poles and a fairly decent trail up to the base of the main divide.

http://www.avalanche.net.nz is a good resource. Along with calling the Franz and Mt Cook DoC office.

Cheers Joe.

I'll head up that way and check it out. Yea I think it's going to be a matter of checking out the avalance conditions on the day and heading up..

With any luck there will be some safe routes up to hopefully pop a cham.