Crap Bivvy in the Bush

few discrete wee knicks of the plastic with a pen knife-just enough to irritate with the constant drip -hopefully the hint will be taken.if not and its still there well enlarge em slightly on your next visit .dont clean up the crap they leave -youre a hunter not their fucking chambermaid or mother !of course should you discover an adress or contact vdetails amongst the detritus well...illleave it up to your imagination. tho facebook is rather fetching!!!

I’ve always been curious about the general consensus on the topic of bivvies and people building huts in the bush. Is it considered taboo? For the record, I’ve never done it myself.

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Originally Posted by stumpys

I can assure yo I never feel like I own the bush. And treat it and the animals I take from it with the care and respect they deserve. Just get dissapointed that someone that's taken the 2+ hrs to walk into this area doesn't feel the same way.

I will carefully remove this bivvy next time I'm up there, fold it all up neatly and leave it near their gear stash.

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Was thinking of heading in next weekend after work, if you want a hand to pack it down flick me a message.

Found a pretty decent well established hut in the northern kaimanawas last year looked like it had been there for years, was very clean around it so just had a look and moved on.

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Originally Posted by TakaRat

I’ve always been curious about the general consensus on the topic of bivvies and people building huts in the bush. Is it considered taboo? For the record, I’ve never done it myself.

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I think it's selfish

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Originally Posted by TakaRat

I’ve always been curious about the general consensus on the topic of bivvies and people building huts in the bush. Is it considered taboo? For the record, I’ve never done it myself.

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DOC regard them as taboo. Have heard sometimes they send teams in to dismantle a few that have sprung up but I don't think their budgets cover more frequent missions so they might not be winning the campaign.
Personally they annoy me. I kinda live by the belief I should take only game ( deer, chamois, tahr, pigs ) and leave only footprints. If I want to camp I carry gear in and pack it all out at trips end.
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The most annoying thing is that a hunter settles on what he thinks is a decent hunting spot and brings in all the paraphernalia ( consisting largely of plastic items ), sets up a permanent camp that he probably visists for a year or two maybe until becoming bored with hunting there and desiring newer pastures. Then instead of dismantling and removing the camp and accumulated equipment just moves out and leaves it all to slowly break down in the weather and become a polluting pile of crap. For crying out loud, we're hunters and should be showing our hunting environment a damn sight more love and respect than that.

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Originally Posted by 30.06king

DOC regard them as taboo. Have heard sometimes they send teams in to dismantle a few that have sprung up but I don't think their budgets cover more frequent missions so they might not be winning the campaign.
Personally they annoy me. I kinda live by the belief I should take only game ( deer, chamois, tahr, pigs ) and leave only footprints. If I want to camp I carry gear in and pack it all out at trips end.
To me
The most annoying thing is that a hunter settles on what he thinks is a decent hunting spot and brings in all the paraphernalia ( consisting largely of plastic items ), sets up a permanent camp that he probably visists for a year or two maybe until becoming bored with hunting there and desiring newer pastures. Then instead of dismantling and removing the camp and accumulated equipment just moves out and leaves it all to slowly break down in the weather and become a polluting pile of crap. For crying out loud, we're hunters and should be showing our hunting environment a damn sight more love and respect than that.

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well said mate -- we flew a lot of crap out when I was in Te Urewera -- the tuhoe land down the Whakatane was especially bad - a lot probably still there we did not touch anything on their land - odd decent camp but a lot of black plastic - Waioeka was bad to but mainly old possum camps

While it riles me when I come across a messy hunter camp, be it a possum deer or pig hunter camp, one has to remember that hunters have been building these camps for as long as we’ve been hunting in NZ. While it may piss you off to find a camp in the middle of nowhere, messy or not, just remember that if recently used the occupiers May not be too happy if they catch you dismantling/ vandalising it. Not that I’ve built one in years I have used them on the odd occasion. Just remember that until recently a lot of the camps on Stewart Island and elsewhere were exactly this style of camp, some messy as fuck and rodent infested. There’s modern huts at most of those sites now so obviously on good sites. As an aside some DOC huts I come across piss me off because of the state some trampers/hunters leave them in, a lot of them seem to be DB, Tui or Cody’s drinkers. Overall I’m a bit ambivalent about the semi-permanent hunter camp setup.