Thread: do you shoot hinds???

Originally Posted by Sowslayer

Drop the lead hind then into them. Keep shooting until they are out of range then plan on how to get them out.

^^ that had me cracking up! Once upon a time I would have done the same

I go against the grain here it would seem, I don’t shoot adult hinds or cows. However I shoot yearling reds which often are female so that kinda counts.. I don’t shoot young stags either. In Southland/Fiordland/Otago there is plenty of opportunity to be picky which is half the problem. I’m certainly not going to sack a hind (or a young stag for that matter) on an expedition type hunt like crossing the main divide or traversing through the wapiti blocks. With patience comes reward, I have some beautiful trophy’s to show for it, however I realise this also creates a problem. Some of our doc country is currently being poisoned due to high animal numbers, and I completely agree for need to control them. Wether or not 1080 is the right way to go about it is a different argument all together. So in hind-sight (��) I should probably be slaying hinds on the spot, removing the back steaks and carrying on but I cannot bring myself to do it, therefore being part of the problem.. it’s a conundrum

Originally Posted by Tahrzan

^^ that had me cracking up! Once upon a time I would have done the same

I go against the grain here it would seem, I don’t shoot adult hinds or cows. However I shoot yearling reds which often are female so that kinda counts.. I don’t shoot young stags either. In Southland/Fiordland/Otago there is plenty of opportunity to be picky which is half the problem. I’m certainly not going to sack a hind (or a young stag for that matter) on an expedition type hunt like crossing the main divide or traversing through the wapiti blocks. With patience comes reward, I have some beautiful trophy’s to show for it, however I realise this also creates a problem. Some of our doc country is currently being poisoned due to high animal numbers, and I completely agree for need to control them. Wether or not 1080 is the right way to go about it is a different argument all together. So in hind-sight (��) I should probably be slaying hinds on the spot, removing the back steaks and carrying on but I cannot bring myself to do it, therefore being part of the problem.. it’s a conundrum

Where is 1080 or any poison being used on DOC land to purposefully control deer numbers? I accept that deer are often enough a by-kill (and just as often now not so much because repellent is used) but you seem to be saying that deer are actually a specific target species for poison? I haven't heard of that??

Originally Posted by Tahr

Where is 1080 or any poison being used on DOC land to purposefully control deer numbers? I accept that deer are often enough a by-kill (and just as often now not so much because repellent is used) but you seem to be saying that deer are actually a specific target species for poison? I haven't heard of that??

Anywhere that repellant is not used. This is generally where TB in livestock is an issue. To the best of my knowledge all the TB poison drops on the West Coast in the last five years have targeted deer

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Anywhere that repellant is not used. This is generally where TB in livestock is an issue. To the best of my knowledge all the TB poison drops on the West Coast in the last five years have targeted deer

On DOC land? News to me. Im not aware of a single instance where deer have been the target species. Can you quote an example?

Originally Posted by Tahr

On DOC land? News to me. Im not aware of a single instance where deer have been the target species. Can you quote an example?

probably more an inference gained from the fact that DOC and all the idiot's who want pre human bush are not hard done by in the slightest when deer get knocked out in decent numbers. without sounding conspiratorial if they were targeting deer i'm not sure they'd say the quiet part out loud.

Sorry @Tahr, not a factual reference merely an assumption/opinion I guess - more importantly not a point I was trying to make.
Cheers

Originally Posted by Tahrzan

Sorry @Tahr, not a factual reference merely an assumption/opinion I guess - more importantly not a point I was trying to make.
Cheers

OK

Originally Posted by Tahr

On DOC land? News to me. Im not aware of a single instance where deer have been the target species. Can you quote an example?

All the drops on both sides of the Taramakua following round Inchbonnie the Crooked River, Bell Hill, Haupiri to the Grey was Ospri TB control and took out a very high percentage of deer. The two drops over the whole of the Victorias, same. Lower Buller, Inangahua / Mackley TB control deer targeted

I don't get out after deer as much as I used to hence why I try to load up when I do. I agree tho I can't just take backsteaks. at the bare minimum its back legs and steaks. I don't like to waste meat. Tbh tho any further than a km from the truck I think twice before pulling the trigger 😅.