Thread: East Kaweka 1080 info

Originally Posted by TLB

Tahr this is an unprotected pellet dropped in an environment consisting of a lot of high altitude mountain beech and sub alpine country in late autumn/winter. How long would a coating applied to the outside of these pellets stand up to the adverse weather conditions encountered at this time of year? There is already a buffer area in place that gets done by both ground control and another section that gets aerialled. This drop is in behind the buffer and personally I would love to see the reasons to justify it. Being strictly for the eradication of bovine Tb and all.

Hey TLB,

Has this area been done before, was it part of say a 10 year 3 treatment process?? Or is this new. With the Haurangi they have just started a 10 year 3 treatment plan (first was last year). Maybe this is the last drop of that 10yrs??

In regards to how long the repellent stays on depends on how it is applied, Haurangi was sprayed on to baits but i have heard they have developed a better system.

Spay on washes off with rain, 10 days after our drop baits were green

Hope that helps

Hamish

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Hey TLB,

Has this area been done before, was it part of say a 10 year 3 treatment process?? Or is this new. With the Haurangi they have just started a 10 year 3 treatment plan (first was last year). Maybe this is the last drop of that 10yrs??

In regards to how long the repellent stays on depends on how it is applied, Haurangi was sprayed on to baits but i have heard they have developed a better system.

Spay on washes off with rain, 10 days after our drop baits were green

Hope that helps

Hamish

Hamish, any idea how long it takes for the baits to breakdown (with rain etc) to the point where they are ineffective?

Originally Posted by GWH

Hamish, any idea how long it takes for the baits to breakdown (with rain etc) to the point where they are ineffective?

No sorry, i can say i went into Haurangi 10 days after a drop, It had showered the day after baits were down and cant remember weather after that before i went in, However there were still a number of baits around, in saying that how long is a piece of string, Especially when baits can be more exposed to rain etc.

Based on what period they give the area based on the checks they do i would say prob 4-6 mths for secondary kill off dead critters if you take dogs in and prob 1 month for baits?? I went in 2 mths after and a guy was there with his very overweight lab, I asked if he knew about 1080 drop and he said yup, I then asked about the dog and he proceeded to tell me that his Lab did not scavenge , made me laugh, specially based on the size of it.


Hope that helps

Hamish

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Hey TLB,

Has this area been done before, was it part of say a 10 year 3 treatment process?? Or is this new. With the Haurangi they have just started a 10 year 3 treatment plan (first was last year). Maybe this is the last drop of that 10yrs??

In regards to how long the repellent stays on depends on how it is applied, Haurangi was sprayed on to baits but i have heard they have developed a better system.

Spay on washes off with rain, 10 days after our drop baits were green

Hope that helps

Hamish

Quite sure the repellant is pigs blood, its purchased dried (in bags), then its added to water and sprayed on before the baits are bagged - wouldn't take much to wash off

I have seen baits on the ground on the comet in HB 3 months after application, have also seen over 20 baits in a 30 metre radius, seen them on shingle roads and walking tracks, all in the comet area.

I have pictures of the same baits decomposing over time, some baits were rubble after a month, some survived the 3 months, totally depends on rainfall.

One thing is for sure, it smoked the local deer population.

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Hey TLB,

Has this area been done before, was it part of say a 10 year 3 treatment process?? Or is this new. With the Haurangi they have just started a 10 year 3 treatment plan (first was last year). Maybe this is the last drop of that 10yrs??

In regards to how long the repellent stays on depends on how it is applied, Haurangi was sprayed on to baits but i have heard they have developed a better system.

Spay on washes off with rain, 10 days after our drop baits were green

Hope that helps

Hamish

Hey Hamish,
No this area has never been done before. The front country of the Kawekas gets done and has so for upwards of 12 years. This along with many other areas in the future is the next step in. This is the plan for the vast majority of the Tb free areas so over the next 10 years or so a lot more of the northern Ruahines, Kawekas and Kaimanawas to name a few are going to see new areas treated with aerial 1080.

And to all those that didn't know, virtually the WHOLE of the Ahimanawa Ranges are also getting treated next year also, most of this never seen control before.

Originally Posted by TLB

Hey Hamish,
No this area has never been done before. The front country of the Kawekas gets done and has so for upwards of 12 years. This along with many other areas in the future is the next step in. This is the plan for the vast majority of the Tb free areas so over the next 10 years or so a lot more of the northern Ruahines, Kawekas and Kaimanawas to name a few are going to see new areas treated with aerial 1080.

And to all those that didn't know, virtually the WHOLE of the Ahimanawa Ranges are also getting treated next year also, most of this never seen control before.

I'm thinking there might be a 'west' Kaweka area as well, that ahimanawas drop doesn't sound good either.

Originally Posted by TLB

Hey Hamish,
No this area has never been done before. The front country of the Kawekas gets done and has so for upwards of 12 years. This along with many other areas in the future is the next step in. This is the plan for the vast majority of the Tb free areas so over the next 10 years or so a lot more of the northern Ruahines, Kawekas and Kaimanawas to name a few are going to see new areas treated with aerial 1080.

And to all those that didn't know, virtually the WHOLE of the Ahimanawa Ranges are also getting treated next year also, most of this never seen control before.

had an e-mail back re Ahimanawas, still being finalised and will be confirmed with boundaries etc in the new year, i'll keep you posted.