Thread: Expensive wallabies

If we're concerned with the cost of extensive wallaby control I suspect we should be open to wider use of broadcast 1080, where practicable?

Originally Posted by Maxx

If we're concerned with the cost of extensive wallaby control I suspect we should be open to wider use of broadcast 1080, where practicable?

Not a suitable tool for small populations on the margin of their range. Would not be cost-effective.

Originally Posted by gimp

Not a suitable tool for small populations on the margin of their range. Would not be cost-effective.

I'm sure that's the case in lots of places..... but given the acknowledged high cost of dealing with small/isolated/at the margins of expanding populations I do wonder if it warrants greater consideration on occasion?

Originally Posted by Maxx

If we're concerned with the cost of extensive wallaby control I suspect we should be open to wider use of broadcast 1080, where practicable?

I'm no expert on the use of 1080 BUT, DOC has been using 1080 for what, 50 years as it's primary tool to try eradicate possums amongst others and it has been an utter failure. It doesn't seem to work does it? So you have to wonder why they keep doing the same old thing time after time with predictable results. Then there's the other elephant in the room...the VAST MAJORITY of OECD territories have prohibited the use of 1080 yet NZ continues to use it.....what do they know that we either don't know, or choose to ignore cos "she'll be right"......

Originally Posted by Zedrex

I'm no expert on the use of 1080 BUT, DOC has been using 1080 for what, 50 years as it's primary tool to try eradicate possums amongst others and it has been an utter failure. It doesn't seem to work does it? So you have to wonder why they keep doing the same old thing time after time with predictable results. Then there's the other elephant in the room...the VAST MAJORITY of OECD territories have prohibited the use of 1080 yet NZ continues to use it.....what do they know that we either don't know, or choose to ignore cos "she'll be right"......

This is outdated thinking really. It works alright in a planned management regime. We continue to use it because we don't have vulnerable native mammals like other countries do.
1080 has virtually eliminated wallaby from some of the blocks that we previously culled hundreds off.

Originally Posted by Zedrex

I'm no expert on the use of 1080 BUT, DOC has been using 1080 for what, 50 years as it's primary tool to try eradicate possums amongst others and it has been an utter failure. It doesn't seem to work does it? So you have to wonder why they keep doing the same old thing time after time with predictable results. Then there's the other elephant in the room...the VAST MAJORITY of OECD territories have prohibited the use of 1080 yet NZ continues to use it.....what do they know that we either don't know, or choose to ignore cos "she'll be right"......

Not saying it hasn't been the case, but I'm not aware of claims that 1080 is being used to eradicate possums. Certainly claimed to be a control tool, though.... not unlike a lawnmower.

Originally Posted by Maxx

Not saying it hasn't been the case, but I'm not aware of claims that 1080 is being used to eradicate possums. Certainly claimed to be a control tool, though.... not unlike a lawnmower.

Remember the statement from the ex deputy mayor of Auckland when the Hunua Ranges were getting their drop number 6 or 7. "possums will be gone forever with this drop"

Originally Posted by tetawa

Remember the statement from the ex deputy mayor of Auckland when the Hunua Ranges were getting their drop number 6 or 7. "possums will be gone forever with this drop"

Don't be the first person to trust what a politician says, or a used rifle salesman for that matter

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

Originally Posted by Eat Meater

Don't be the first person to trust what a politician says, or a used rifle salesman for that matter

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

Didn't believe his remark, it was a calming statement for the many who were fed up with 1080 being dumped in their water catchment area at too regular intervals.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Remember the statement from the ex deputy mayor of Auckland when the Hunua Ranges were getting their drop number 6 or 7. "possums will be gone forever with this drop"

Its a silly statement and they deserve to be the ex mayor.

Results in the Hunua ranges are pretty impressive though, mid 1990s there were only 25 kokako, 24 of those 25 were males, because the females get predated while on the nest. Last census 229 pairs of adult breeding birds.

Originally Posted by Maxx

Not saying it hasn't been the case, but I'm not aware of claims that 1080 is being used to eradicate possums. Certainly claimed to be a control tool, though.... not unlike a lawnmower.

That analogy doesn't really work though does it? With a lawnmower, you know, sure as egs is eggs that you'll be back next week cutting the fekking grass again

roundup as in herbicide not mustering them LOL.

Originally Posted by Zedrex

That analogy doesn't really work though does it? With a lawnmower, you know, sure as egs is eggs that you'll be back next week cutting the fekking grass again

That’s the very reason the analogy does hold, imo. It’s a control tool, not eradication mechanism?

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

roundup as in herbicide not mustering them LOL.

Originally Posted by Maxx

That’s the very reason the analogy does hold, imo. It’s a control tool, not eradication mechanism?

Yep, it does, I misinterpreted what you were saying, personally, I'm blaming MONDAYS!