Thread: Experienced Advice Appreciated For Long Range Hunting

Originally Posted by Tentman

Hello. Everyone has to learn but all game deserves a respectful death, as quick and humane as possible.

Anyone can "miss" right from close to a long way away, and any of the "misses" are a potential wounding of an animal, if you don't get it with a subsequent shot, you just don't know - yes a hit is a very audible thing but only in certain conditions i.e. close-ish and not too much other noise/wind etc. I know, I can miss rabbits at 25 yards and bigger stuff at 50 sometimes - so 200 and 300M are easy (too miss).

I like reading/watching some of the Tahr hunt video's and there are lots/many/heaps of "misses" on Tahr by all sorts of Hunters at ranges from close to long, and its the same if one goes to a gong shoot, everyone remembers their hits but few people focus on or recall the misses.

You've been jumped on a bit unfairly I think (let he who has not ever missed an animal be the first to cast stones your way so to speak) , but there is good advice here - zero your rifles, practice and stay with conservative shots.

Everyone's ethics vary, but one of the very finest marksman I have watched over a period of time on the internet shooting very well out to past 1000 metres on difficult targets - his take - He will not shoot at game over 400 metres. I feel the same way but my personal limit is 300m or so. The point is as your shooting abilities/equipment evolves you should be able to know what is a good distance for you and that's what ethical hunting is about.

Thanks Tentman and thanks for all the other guys who have taken the time to reply. I too feel that the thread has jumped the tracks a bit here and has become a bit of a 'pick on me' session. The thread has nothing to do with morality and long range shooting/hunting ethics per-se! For all of you here, the fact that we are going to shoot at animals out to around 7-800 meters 'IS' a happening thing, so you'll simply just have to get used to it.

Now, I can understand that in public forums, such as this, someone starts to through his/her ethical weight around, then another jumps on the band wagon, then before you know it you've created a 'pack-mentality' whereby everyone has to be seen to have the 'holier than thou' attitude!

The purpose of this thread is (for my brother's sake) should we be checking, and therefore 'knowing' where our bullets are going at the ranges we intend to shoot, at prior to going or, should we just go hunting first, at those ranges, and then check our POI 'after' the deer shooting's done? Increasing the chances of missing and/or wounding animals.

I personally (like most of you out there I'm sure) have got advanced equipment to be able to give me a theoretical trajectory, based on a number of perimeters that I have acquired (velocity, BC, barometric pressure, temperature, zeroing distance etc) however, I would like to verify them in real time. My brother, on the other hand, hasn't.

Anyway, kidmac42 is kinda right, in that this thread is not giving me the answers I was hoping for, and R93 was right in that I can, and already have, answered my own questions, so I'll leave you all to it, and go my merry way! Thanks for all who have tried to reply genuinely.

Originally Posted by Remington 5R .300 Win Mag

Thanks Tentman and thanks for all the other guys who have taken the time to reply. I too feel that the thread has jumped the tracks a bit here and has become a bit of a 'pick on me' session. The thread has nothing to do with morality and long range shooting/hunting ethics per-se! For all of you here, the fact that we are going to shoot at animals out to around 7-800 meters 'IS' a happening thing, so you'll simply just have to get used to it.

Now, I can understand that in public forums, such as this, someone starts to through his/her ethical weight around, then another jumps on the band wagon, then before you know it you've created a 'pack-mentality' whereby everyone has to be seen to have the 'holier than thou' attitude!

The purpose of this thread is (for my brother's sake) should we be checking, and therefore 'knowing' where our bullets are going at the ranges we intend to shoot, at prior to going or, should we just go hunting first, at those ranges, and then check our POI 'after' the deer shooting's done? Increasing the chances of missing and/or wounding animals.

I personally (like most of you out there I'm sure) have got advanced equipment to be able to give me a theoretical trajectory, based on a number of perimeters that I have acquired (velocity, BC, barometric pressure, temperature, zeroing distance etc) however, I would like to verify them in real time. My brother, on the other hand, hasn't.

Anyway, kidmac42 is kinda right, in that this thread is not giving me the answers I was hoping for, and R93 was right in that I can, and already have, answered my own questions, so I'll leave you all to it, and go my merry way! Thanks for all who have tried to reply genuinely.

Lol. All the gear. No idea.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Lol. All the gear. No idea.

Motto I live by.

Originally Posted by Remington 5R .300 Win Mag

Thanks Tentman and thanks for all the other guys who have taken the time to reply. I too feel that the thread has jumped the tracks a bit here and has become a bit of a 'pick on me' session. The thread has nothing to do with morality and long range shooting/hunting ethics per-se! For all of you here, the fact that we are going to shoot at animals out to around 7-800 meters 'IS' a happening thing, so you'll simply just have to get used to it.

Now, I can understand that in public forums, such as this, someone starts to through his/her ethical weight around, then another jumps on the band wagon, then before you know it you've created a 'pack-mentality' whereby everyone has to be seen to have the 'holier than thou' attitude!

The purpose of this thread is (for my brother's sake) should we be checking, and therefore 'knowing' where our bullets are going at the ranges we intend to shoot, at prior to going or, should we just go hunting first, at those ranges, and then check our POI 'after' the deer shooting's done? Increasing the chances of missing and/or wounding animals.

I personally (like most of you out there I'm sure) have got advanced equipment to be able to give me a theoretical trajectory, based on a number of perimeters that I have acquired (velocity, BC, barometric pressure, temperature, zeroing distance etc) however, I would like to verify them in real time. My brother, on the other hand, hasn't.

Anyway, kidmac42 is kinda right, in that this thread is not giving me the answers I was hoping for, and R93 was right in that I can, and already have, answered my own questions, so I'll leave you all to it, and go my merry way! Thanks for all who have tried to reply genuinely.

Basically if you have to ask the questions you do, you should definitely not be shooting at animals at the mentioned distances.

For the majority of us that do shoot animals at extended ranges, beyond say 300 yards, we have done a fair bit of preperation including at least a couple of longer range gong sessions out to ranges beyond where we would normally take shots at game.

Even when we have done all this and have verified the actual drop data with the therorectical drop solution and have a good confidence in our ability things can still not work out perfectly, wind is the biggest variable. To think that you could zero at 200 yards, bang some data into a phone app and be ready to shoot at game animals out to 700+ yards is very nieve and frankly irresponsible. The fact that many other experienced people have already given you this same advice and you have thrown it back in their face shows a total dissregard for the whole deal to be honest.

I actually wondered if your original post was a windup pisstake.

Originally Posted by Remington 5R .300 Win Mag

Thanks Tentman and thanks for all the other guys who have taken the time to reply. I too feel that the thread has jumped the tracks a bit here and has become a bit of a 'pick on me' session. The thread has nothing to do with morality and long range shooting/hunting ethics per-se! For all of you here, the fact that we are going to shoot at animals out to around 7-800 meters 'IS' a happening thing, so you'll simply just have to get used to it.

Now, I can understand that in public forums, such as this, someone starts to through his/her ethical weight around, then another jumps on the band wagon, then before you know it you've created a 'pack-mentality' whereby everyone has to be seen to have the 'holier than thou' attitude!

The purpose of this thread is (for my brother's sake) should we be checking, and therefore 'knowing' where our bullets are going at the ranges we intend to shoot, at prior to going or, should we just go hunting first, at those ranges, and then check our POI 'after' the deer shooting's done? Increasing the chances of missing and/or wounding animals.

I personally (like most of you out there I'm sure) have got advanced equipment to be able to give me a theoretical trajectory, based on a number of perimeters that I have acquired (velocity, BC, barometric pressure, temperature, zeroing distance etc) however, I would like to verify them in real time. My brother, on the other hand, hasn't.

Anyway, kidmac42 is kinda right, in that this thread is not giving me the answers I was hoping for, and R93 was right in that I can, and already have, answered my own questions, so I'll leave you all to it, and go my merry way! Thanks for all who have tried to reply genuinely.

There is nothing holyer than thou regarding common sense is there?

You also mention a pack mentality?

I take comfort looking at the replies in this thread that there is a lot of common ground among our peers regarding the treatment and respect for our quarry.





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