Thread: Fallow 2019

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

That trophy is really heavy beamed for a wildy. Blue Mountains or Queenstown ??

Wild on private land

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

That trophy is really heavy beamed for a wildy. Blue Mountains or Queenstown ??

Yeah Na. Beam is only slightly above average at 4.3 NZ record one is 3.8 beam
You must not have seen many good fallow to think that



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Originally Posted by MSL

Wild on private land

It is private land. I have been hunting here on and off for 5 yrs and hope to have the access for longer.
New owners on one block. So not sure what their plans are after this season.
My mate who guided here first 10 yrs ago and the land owners have done an excellent job and have been committed to improving the herd. I have just lucked into it, purely by association.
Not complaining tho.


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Originally Posted by R93

It is private land. I have been hunting here on and off for 5 yrs and hope to have the access for longer.
New owners on one block. So not sure what their plans are after this season.
My mate who guided here first 10 yrs ago and the land owners have done an excellent job and have been committed to improving the herd. I have just lucked into it, purely by association.
Not complaining tho.


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I was interested in what bloodline it is if wild, not the actual farm. I can see it is farmland and east coast in the pics.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I was interested in what bloodline it is if wild, not the actual farm. I can see it is farmland and east coast in the pics.

The original animals come from Elfin Bay so I am told.

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I was interested in what bloodline it is if wild, not the actual farm. I can see it is farmland and east coast in the pics.

The Banwell book is great for that (provided you know where these animals were sourced from within NZ)

Thanks for the taking the time to reply to the above questions here @R93 good to get a bit of education on Fallow Bucks.
Could I ask do you have any pics of younger bucks as the progress so we can see how and what makes a better trophy?
Cheers

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Thanks for the taking the time to reply to the above questions here @R93 good to get a bit of education on Fallow Bucks.
Could I ask do you have any pics of younger bucks as the progress so we can see how and what makes a better trophy?
Cheers

@Sideshow, I certainly don't agree with everything he states, but Howard Egan's two books on Fallow are very insightful regarding what it takes to grow a trophy buck.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Thanks for the taking the time to reply to the above questions here @R93 good to get a bit of education on Fallow Bucks.
Could I ask do you have any pics of younger bucks as the progress so we can see how and what makes a better trophy?
Cheers

First off I have admitted several times to being shit at taking photos. The ones I have now are no exception.
I also forgot a phone/scope thingy I bought purposefully for this season.

I will try to show/explain what I have learned off a fella who has secured 7 of the top 10 wild fallow taken in NZ
Including the current #1 official.

Fallow are relatively easy to measure Douglas scoring wise. Easier than non typical reds that's for sure.

The fella that I have learned off has forgotten more than I will ever know but I have a flukey knack of scoring them very accurately on the Hoof.
I scored the big one above as 271 before shot and 273 when I seen him up close.
Every other fallow I have guided I am usually within 5.

Anyway. When scanning for bucks with binos for me it is obvious on what I would put a spotter on due, to frame and body size. Especially if Does are standing close by.
Then if it is worth a look I make sure it has good brows, trez and not so important guard tines. If he has all that then good palm length, width and palm points. He gets more time spent on him. Nice long and wide paddles with lots of points all help the score.
Also look at how many points you will get for fresh air. Spread. Is he as wide as he is long etc.
My good buck went 31 long and I think 36 wide. He got points for fresh air and was close to being over spread.

In pic below. I know it is shit and blurry but this fella has everything going for him as a 3-4 Yr old.
Those brows are amazing. He has width and good palms but not much length overall or in his palms.
I have seen a similar one to him this morning that was even better and around the same age. But got sick of playing hide and seek with him and the camera.
Hope that helps a bit but getting some time around good animals certainly helps a lot. I have a few more pics on my Canon camera but haven't uploaded them yet.

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Another thing with fallow, they tend to be daytime dwellers more so than reds and give you the opportunity to assess them well. As R93 said, they are easy to score compared to some reds, don't let all the spellers put you off Length of palm is really the only measurement that can vary from scorer to scorer due to the location it is taken from.

Thanks guys that’s a dam fine start.
I’ve seen (what I think) were some good ones in our area of the uk and some bloody monsters in Germany.
Thanks again something I can spend a bit of time on learning.
We have a herd of over 200 just down the road from were I live. Might be a few in there I can have a look at

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Thanks guys that’s a dam fine start.
I’ve seen (what I think) were some good ones in our area of the uk and some bloody monsters in Germany.
Thanks again something I can spend a bit of time on learning.
We have a herd of over 200 just down the road from were I live. Might be a few in there I can have a look at

Had a German fella helping us out last week. His father is a guide over there.
He says the average fallow is heavier over there. They get some pretty big ones. Hungary is the place for really big buggers tho.

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An old Aussie mate of mine has just recently shot a huge buck in Hungary, around 300 DS.

Cracker buck! Nice work @R93

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Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

Cracker buck! Nice work @R93

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You will be coming next year yeah?
So bring a bib for all the dribbling

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