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Stocky Farmer lying about paper road? 10-11-2021, 05:37 PM
Hahn Sounds like you are trying to... 10-11-2021, 05:44 PM
Stocky Not going to comment on... 10-11-2021, 05:56 PM
Tahr muzza Yes. Sometimes paper... 10-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Stocky Good info to know. And I... 10-11-2021, 05:59 PM
BRADS Again Tahr best post in this... 12-11-2021, 06:15 PM
NRT Yeah cause some farmers are... 12-11-2021, 07:00 PM
Sarvo You mistakenly meant that for... 12-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Tahr At least those things are... 12-11-2021, 07:12 PM
BRADS There is never a more... 12-11-2021, 08:08 PM
Stocky I agree that plenty of... 12-11-2021, 09:02 PM
199p Hahaha i can think of at... 04-01-2022, 09:12 AM
Stocky The paper road thing has been... 12-11-2021, 07:48 PM
Flyblown He does it cos he knows he... 12-11-2021, 08:06 PM
timattalon Just remember, legally you... 12-11-2021, 11:07 PM
Russian 22. it goes both ways though, the... 12-11-2021, 08:02 PM
Maxx Can you explain the bold bit... 13-11-2021, 04:47 PM
XR500 Someone slides off a paper... 13-11-2021, 06:02 PM
gsp follower nobodies haten on farmers... 13-11-2021, 08:32 PM
Taupohunter Yet you purchased a farm with... 03-01-2022, 08:58 AM
hunt08 Year but that 5% can make... 03-01-2022, 01:18 PM
Padox Been there had that problem a... 03-01-2022, 04:15 PM
zimmer I looked at this about a year... 10-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Stocky I have marked the centre line... 10-11-2021, 06:07 PM
XR500 WAMS update the legality of... 10-11-2021, 06:34 PM
outlander As the population grows, this... 10-11-2021, 08:10 PM
XR500 It is also illegal to block a... 10-11-2021, 07:09 PM
Maxx As Tahr observed, these... 10-11-2021, 07:18 PM
Husky1600 Walking Access is your best... 10-11-2021, 07:29 PM
Hahn Everything you have described... 10-11-2021, 07:32 PM
Sarvo [QUOTE=Hahn;1245641]Everything... 10-11-2021, 08:22 PM
zimmer [QUOTE=Sarvo;1245669] ... 10-11-2021, 08:36 PM
Sarvo [QUOTE=zimmer;1245672] Yes... 11-11-2021, 09:06 AM
Micky Duck a GPS is your best... 10-11-2021, 07:59 PM
Hunteast A few things - better to... 10-11-2021, 08:10 PM
hdc This is going to be an... 10-11-2021, 09:15 PM
Russian 22. You don't need to ask for... 10-11-2021, 09:44 PM
norsk No your being a wanker. ... 10-11-2021, 10:15 PM
hdc Righto mate. You've obviously... 11-11-2021, 05:37 AM
norsk They have a right to use it.... 11-11-2021, 06:42 AM
Moa Hunter I completely understand your... 11-11-2021, 06:47 AM
Stocky There is no track mate there... 11-11-2021, 08:16 AM
Nathan F Agree 100%. Find somewhere... 11-11-2021, 07:02 AM
Stocky There's other reasons I'd... 11-11-2021, 08:24 AM
Stocky Is your paper road the only... 11-11-2021, 07:41 AM
Taupohunter I agree that poachers are... 03-01-2022, 08:30 AM
Fireflite It doesn't need to be pointed... 08-01-2022, 11:43 PM
PillowDribbler Wams came to fruition when... 10-11-2021, 09:18 PM
Micky Duck not within moral right at... 10-11-2021, 09:23 PM
hdc I realize this will wind some... 10-11-2021, 09:59 PM
Stocky One that's not paper roads... 11-11-2021, 07:55 AM
Taupohunter If I owned a farm with a UPR... 03-01-2022, 08:36 AM
Micky Duck that skoda....you charge $50... 10-11-2021, 10:07 PM
hdc Micky Duck we will have to... 10-11-2021, 10:14 PM
erniec Taupo Deer Stalkers battled... 10-11-2021, 10:27 PM
XR500 No, there's a big fuck off... 11-11-2021, 08:11 AM
erniec I have only walked down there... 11-11-2021, 09:14 AM
Taupohunter Thats because it was tested... 03-01-2022, 08:38 AM
yerimaginaryM8 Whoa I am not a farmer but I... 10-11-2021, 10:38 PM
Stocky I'm not talking a farmer with... 11-11-2021, 08:08 AM
NewbieZAR Some farmers really take the... 10-11-2021, 10:59 PM
Moa Hunter Only the local council (to... 10-11-2021, 11:09 PM
HOO Offer to help them out on the... 11-11-2021, 07:51 AM
Stocky I have already offered this... 11-11-2021, 08:30 AM
Flyblown Stocky I was involved in... 11-11-2021, 08:39 AM
Tahr Yes. As I said you really... 11-11-2021, 09:16 AM
Sarvo Exactly Its not worth the... 11-11-2021, 02:08 PM
Moa Hunter For anyone wondering about... 11-11-2021, 03:43 PM
NEO Ok. But if I used their... 19-11-2021, 07:23 PM
Moa Hunter I have made a point of having... 11-11-2021, 03:40 PM
XR500 You do realise that this... 11-11-2021, 03:42 PM
NewbieZAR I wonder how many of these... 11-11-2021, 09:20 PM
gsp follower a] paper roads = councill... 11-11-2021, 09:34 PM
timattalon GSP not quite. It may be... 12-11-2021, 11:35 AM
gsp follower um yes it does only dangerous... 12-11-2021, 02:23 PM
Moa Hunter Go cut the trees down for... 12-11-2021, 02:33 PM
outdoorlad Stocky I’d maybe have another... 12-11-2021, 04:02 PM
Stocky I'm going to try have another... 12-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Cigar Our old farm had a paper road... 12-11-2021, 06:26 PM
Boaraxa Ok , my thoughts are this ,... 12-11-2021, 08:12 PM
whanahuia Yep. have to agree with Tim... 13-11-2021, 06:50 AM
Stocky I completely understand and... 13-11-2021, 09:05 AM
Flyblown But it’s not a separate issue... 13-11-2021, 09:25 AM
Moa Hunter A friend of mine who works at... 13-11-2021, 08:11 AM
timattalon I have to disagree with the... 13-11-2021, 10:54 AM
Moa Hunter Are you quite sure that next... 13-11-2021, 01:08 PM
timattalon Definitely a paper road. And... 13-11-2021, 06:09 PM
gimp That is the weirdest... 13-11-2021, 09:06 AM
erniec I heard that the same thing... 13-11-2021, 09:17 AM
XR500 You are mixing up ownership a... 19-11-2021, 07:51 PM
T.FOYE Had a nasty incident happen... 27-11-2021, 08:02 AM
Moa Hunter I had a firearm presented at... 27-11-2021, 09:30 AM
Hunteast With virtually everyone... 27-11-2021, 04:37 PM
timattalon But please remember a picture... 27-11-2021, 06:28 PM
Hunteast And then the shop video from... 27-11-2021, 11:03 PM
Moa Hunter I had replied to a newspaper... 28-11-2021, 10:20 AM
XR500 Now that is completely... 28-11-2021, 05:41 PM
XR500 Another example of why the... 27-11-2021, 08:36 AM
bigbear Getting away from the op but... 28-11-2021, 07:26 AM
DavidGunn It's the ones that turn... 28-11-2021, 08:17 AM
andyanimal31 I have mate that had an... 03-01-2022, 10:36 PM
PillowDribbler I have one as well 199p,i see... 06-01-2022, 08:51 AM
video hunter Stocky how are you getting on... 08-01-2022, 06:48 PM
Carbine Same as SH1' campaign... 10-01-2022, 06:34 PM
stretch Stocky (and anyone else), if... 23-01-2022, 06:34 PM
Happy Jack Just seen somewhere the FMC... 03-02-2022, 08:32 PM
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    @Stocky (and anyone else), if you're on Facebook, join "Recreational Access and Paper Road Information for Hunters" (https://www.facebook.com/groups/815522488518099/)

    Lots of good discussions, links and examples. I'm the admin.

    As mentioned earlier in this thread, it appears the burden of proof in any trespass case will be on the farmer.

    The difficulty (for both parties) in determining where the boundary of any ULR is is there are inaccuracies in any survey, and these inaccuracies compound with every step of the survey process. Take a look here.
    https://www.linz.govt.nz/data/geodet...eight-accuracy

    So, while doing your best to follow the centerline of the ULR as shown on WAMS, you may off the ULR, but it would be up to the farmer to prove it, and that would require the boundary to be accurately surveyed, instead of just relying on a (possibly 150 year old) digitised map.

    I'm not a WAMS rep or anything, but if anyone wants to talk about specific cases, I'm happy to assist, as I have access to a few useful mapping tools. Haven't been for a hunt in over a year, and essentially stuck in Auckland, so not interested in your spot.

    Sent from my CPH1931 using Tapatalk

 

 

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