I have only walked down there in the last year or so.
Used to go in over Te Iringa.
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I have made a point of having these 'Unformed legal roads' opened up. If there is a letter and request on file to the council then should a land owner make an application to have the road closed, this will be rejected. Only the council can remove padlocks from gates or request a gateway in a fence. The last one I worked on took about 6 or 7 months and a meeting with the Mayor where I asked why the roading staff were so slow in responding. If we do not make sure that they are used by the public then over time more and more will be lost.
You do realise that this scenario plays out very much along Government lines:
" We understand you wish to undertake in a lawful activity, but we are going to make it as difficult as buggery, so that you decide NOT to undertake a lawful activity".
The law is the law is the law. Its lawful to walk/ride/drive a public road. Yes, I know most do not lend themselves to this approach, as lots of them are just lines on a map with scant regard to topography and vegetation. For others they are perfectly navigable by foot/horse/vehicle.
For some its a matter of making a point. For some its the shortest legal way to access OUR public land. Yes, there are ratbags that make it difficult for the rest of us, but ratbags will do whatever they wish to do whether theres a paper road there or not:O_O:
For anyone wondering about 'Stockys' character, I can personally vouch for him being an exemplary young man with perfect manners. Therefore I do not believe that there would have been anything amiss with his approach to the farmer.
I wonder how many of these entitled arrogant cockies who block access across a "paper road" will take responsibility if someone using this access (with or without their permission) gets injured by say the farmers dog, or charged and hurt by a bull, or even get hit by a farm vehicle? I bet they would run for the hills and claim none of their business it happened on public land.
a] paper roads = councill docs got f all to do with it
b]if he has a problem then fence the paper road off from his land thru to where it ends.
that he can do
but blockin denying vehicular access on a PAPER ROAD to where it ends is illegal unless dangerous existing conditions are involved.
if it was just for walking accesss itd be called a walking track not a fuckin ROAD
@GSP not quite. It may be called a paper road, but that does not mean it has to have vehicular access even possible. We have one along our boundary and it runs from the nearby road about 600 metres up behind a row of houses to a dead end. No public land at the end (possibly could call it a public cul de sac or cresent?) While it is wide at one end, it narrows down to a pinch point about 3 feet wide not far from the beginning and opens back up. No one looks after it officially so the neighbouring properties allow the local cocky to mow it for hay during summer. It certainly cannot be driven on. And I know of another that while it is designated a paper road, it is unable to be driven on as the grassy bit between the "tyre ruts" has fully mature pine trees in it so has clearly not been driven on for several decades at the very least...
um yes it does only dangerous topography or dangerous conditions that prevail can prevent vehicular access
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What status do unformed legal roads have?
ULRs are no different in law from formed roads. Almost all have a nominal width of 20 metres, implying that they can be used by vehicles. The public have the right to use them on foot, on horse, or in vehicles without hindrance from the adjoining landholder or anyone else.
However, users of these roads must consider others, including adjoining landholders and their property. The general rules of the road apply and territorial authorities have powers to manage the roads.
ULRs may be unsuitable for vehicle use and even for walking, because of the topography that they traverse.
@Stocky I’d maybe have another yarn to the cocky and say do you want me going in by myself for a hunt or do you want me organising a forum hunting trip in there via chopper with 6+ blokes! And tonging up his so called pseudo private “Public block”