Thread: First bull tahr opportunity?

Originally Posted by bigbear

Some might not be interested in hunting them but like i said this is only the start. When they start on the sika, reds , fallow and wapiti and all the rest of our game animals you might have a change of heart.

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Nah probably not. There are too many of all of those around at the moment....i mean deer are getting hit by trains in Silverstream.....

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With all due respect @HNTMAD that is an absolutely shocking response to @bigbear comments.... you have to be kidding right?!?

If not......your banished back to the BOB's

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Originally Posted by kukuwai

With all due respect @HNTMAD that is an absolutely shocking response to @bigbear comments.... you have to be kidding right?!?

If not......your banished back to the BOB's

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Just honesty mate, there have never been as many animals as now, we can't sit back and throw stones if we are not doing anything about it.

Sure not many people tend to express themselves against the flow but out of my group of close mates 75% think similar....goes to show we are not all in the same page......BOB.....who

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@kukuwai if greens get back in i can see a big push in the next few years to target game animal numbers on all doc land. I can also see some farms been told to reduce deer numbers in the near future.

Originally Posted by bigbear

@kukuwai if greens get back in i can see a big push in the next few years to target game animal numbers on all doc land. I can also see some farms been told to reduce deer numbers in the near future.

Yep, I hate the thought of it.

We need to protect the resources we have not exterminate them.



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Originally Posted by kukuwai

Yep, I hate the thought of it.

We need to protect the resources we have not exterminate them.



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We need to show we can manage them so they don't exterminate them, we will need help to reduce numbers and all rec hunters need to do their part.

Population doubles every 3 years.....even choppers won't get them all...will just be harder to find them in slips so will have to learn to bush hunt for those that can't already.....

Agree they will have to out pressure on farms

Hamish

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Head up bush stream, you'll bang something

There are a lot of keyboard worriers on this forum, if you listen to them you'd never bother going out, and if you don't you sure as shit won't shoot a tahr. In the 40 years I've been hunting game numbers have fluctuated a lot, and sometimes I've had to hunt a lot to get an animal. Time spent hunting is never wasted, I don't recall a single moment on the hill/in the mountains/in the bush that I'd swap for any time behind a keyboad.

Get out there and hunt!

They are where you find em. Make sure you bang plenty too. Same thing if chasing deer on public land, get into the buggers

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

We need to show we can manage them so they don't exterminate them, we will need help to reduce numbers and all rec hunters need to do their part.

Population doubles every 3 years.....even choppers won't get them all...will just be harder to find them in slips so will have to learn to bush hunt for those that can't already.....

Agree they will have to out pressure on farms

Hamish

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Access is the biggest problem. Nearly everywhere that there are big numbers of game animals access is controlled across farms or the access corridors require a big walk before reaching DOC. Places with good access have lower numbers

i just got my hands on ken tustins mtn monarchs... i wsh i was comin with ya up the rangitata..... about 30 years ago

Originally Posted by Tentman

There are a lot of keyboard worriers on this forum, if you listen to them you'd never bother going out, and if you don't you sure as shit won't shoot a tahr. In the 40 years I've been hunting game numbers have fluctuated a lot, and sometimes I've had to hunt a lot to get an animal. Time spent hunting is never wasted, I don't recall a single moment on the hill/in the mountains/in the bush that I'd swap for any time behind a keyboad.

Get out there and hunt!

Really nicely said there mate

Originally Posted by HNTMAD

We need to show we can manage them so they don't exterminate them, we will need help to reduce numbers and all rec hunters need to do their part.

Population doubles every 3 years.....even choppers won't get them all...will just be harder to find them in slips so will have to learn to bush hunt for those that can't already.....

Agree they will have to out pressure on farms

Hamish

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May I suggest a level of care is needed when making such statements. Population doubling every three years is subject to so many things. That should be qualified. It also varies species to species too. I would also suggest that the issue we are discussing is not about killing enough to try and change the views of those who would have every game animal gone. This is a way bigger topic than simply needing to kill more to get the antis on side. What is needed is for people to rationally and kindly come to a collective decision where no one is really happy but the animal numbers are being managed proactively in line with the environment for a long term solution.

Originally Posted by Hiawatha

May I suggest a level of care is needed when making such statements. Population doubling every three years is subject to so many things. That should be qualified. It also varies species to species too. I would also suggest that the issue we are discussing is not about killing enough to try and change the views of those who would have every game animal gone. This is a way bigger topic than simply needing to kill more to get the antis on side. What is needed is for people to rationally and kindly come to a collective decision where no one is really happy but the animal numbers are being managed proactively in line with the environment for a long term solution.

You can suggest what you like, this is just my opinion and I don't like being told to pull my horns in (excuse the pun) just because I have a different view to the mainstream.

The idea of a forum is to be able to discuss topics and often there are multiple sides to a topic.

Truth of the matter is we have an issue and the issue is we as rec hunters are our worst own enemy and don't shoot enough to keep any and all pests under control and do and will need help in what ever form it comes in to get them under control.

You speak of coming together as a group ....how's that going? 250,000 license firearms holders and 8000 national members of the NZDA......bit of work to do there in my view.....and yes I am a member.

I will stick to shooting whatever I see and do my bit, sure I can hear you say....."what about when they are gone".....well by the time that happens I will be broken and unable to get out......."what about your kids and their kids"......look at history, they can't get them all.

Hamish

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https://www.doc.govt.nz/tahr-sightings-maps

well that turned into a typicle NZHS shitfight as quickly as normal....