Thread: Fish and Game

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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The company we are with are very strict we have "Water inspectors",Shed inspectors,fertiliser inspectors,effluent inspectors just to name a few so we are pretty well watched. It makes me think this Dirty dairying is a Southland problemo?

Originally Posted by Uplandstalker

It is disappointing that people only want to get involved with F&G when things aren't going their way. This also can be seen at the local rugby or netball club too, people with their own agenda, instead of a common goal of the best interests of all members( or license holders).

Yes, most farming CAN have a poor effect on our waterways, even including cropping. It would be nice if 98% of dairy farm had the waterways fenced, but struggle to see how this is actually policed. Having a tanker driver report not fence areas, only goes as far as the dairy company want it to. Certainly agree that Sheep and beef farms run stock in the river beds, however, low intensity farming produces less of an effect than large scale dairy operations (as in multiple large farms in a catchment, not just one property).

Nutrient budgets do not actually prevent the nutrients entering the soils and waterways, just like paying a carbon tax prevents the release of carbon.


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We had our inspection last year. The Fonterra guy didn't just take my word for it. He walked ALL of our waterways. You are welcome to do the same if you feel the need

Just proves how uninformed non dairy farmers can be, dairying would easily be now the most policed industry in NZ by far, I would challenge you to go and find 2% of dairy farms that do not have the waterways fenced, I have photo's of 3000 sheep in a significant waterway so much for low intensity, we have had our ground water regularly tested and have found Nitrogen no where near the accepted limits and yet we are deemed to be in a Red Zone with bad irrigation.
I only suggest to you is to get out there and talk to the farmers to see what impact they are having and what they are doing to mitigate this instead of just thinking the worst of all of us.

Im starting to sound like a fuckin greenie as i get older but seriously a bit of common sense doesnt go a stray.