Thread: Game Animal Council (GAC) to be scrapped by Conservation Minister?

Looks like Conservation Minister Eugenie Sage is going all out to stuff New Zealand hunting as fast as she can. Never have I felt such utter disgust for this lot in parliament at present.


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartandhp

Thanks Rushy, link was corrupted, try this one

Check the link Simon. I don't think it took me where you intended.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...y-under-review


Anyone really surprised though?
When the GC are in conflict with DoC's 1080 and game animal management plans, who thought DoC/Govt would really play fairly?

Originally Posted by cambo

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/natio...y-under-review


Anyone really surprised though?
When the GC are in conflict with DoC's 1080 and game animal management plans, who thought DoC/Govt would really play fairly?

no ...not surprised .... any elected government and their underlings listening to lobby groups that have a different view of how things could be done to their own agenda is just pipe dreams .... now if poor little paddles wandered off into an auckland city council park for a night of hunting native birds and accidently gnawed on some discarded 1080 maybe ..... ...

That sucks looks as if the minister is all for getting rid of our game animals any way it can and because the GAC questions the use of methods like 1080 it has to go. Just when we get a council that has our interest at heart the government is thinking of canning it …. we know who to vote for next time, and it won't be them.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

That sucks looks as if the minister is all for getting rid of our game animals any way it can and because the GAC questions the use of methods like 1080 it has to go. Just when we get a council that has our interest at heart the government is thinking of canning it …. we know who to vote for next time, and it won't be them.

Mate no one voted for them last time (Greens) yet they are here it,s corrupt the govt sold there sole to get into power , how a group of nutters with such a small following is basically trying to destroy peoples lively hoods and our way of life is sickening at best.

Arseholes !! But sadly predictable and no doubt the moron city/urban ignorant voting masses don’t give a shit or think it’s a good idea. After all we will be predator free won’t we. Totally arrogant bullshit

As usual - DOC bureaucrats protecting their jobs.
And the Greens 'tail' wagging the composite Gov't.
Where is NZ First (supposedly pro firearms and sportsmen/sports women)?
The Greens agenda is to return NZ bush to pre-European occupation.
The problem being that the Ecology of leaf browsers is gone (MOA for example), and deer/goats have filled that niche.
Tussock land isn't being damaged by imported animals (numbers are too small), but uncontrolled sheep farming in the late 1800's/early 1900's did.
The Fiordland environment isn't being destroyed by Wapiti, due to the excellent management practises of the FWF.
The endangered list of NZ's native species is increasing, because the emphasis is on poisoning the environment, and therefore 'controlling/removing target feral species' - NOT.
As usual, political agendas are more important than the will/knowledge of people who are waiting to be asked to help - hunters for example, and the impact out of date practises is having on the whole environment.
After all, the Press/TV isn't interested in presenting a balanced, investigative opinion - except as a page filler - because balanced reporting doesn't sell papers/ increase viewer percentages.

Originally Posted by WallyR

The Greens agenda is to return NZ bush to pre-European occupation.
The problem being that the Ecology of leaf browsers is gone

........ ummmm the greens are leaf browsers arent they?....................
shit just realised .... get rid of other browsers and they will have no competition for feed..... thus bringing on an apocolyptic breeding season of green party members...... forget the beech mast and the battle for the birds something much more terrifying is coming......

The feral species that need removing are located in central Wellington

Not surprising. The small article in the latests NZ Hunter is also an interesting read. Kill them all, no herds of interest and bomb the country with 1080. Arrogance at its best.

I always maintained the biggest danger to the enviroment is well meaning mis-informed greenies who think they know more than anyone else. (Why else would they support a poison that kills native birds and wildlife being spread by helicopter over the countryside.) The one thing I have noticed is that everywhere I have been that has seen the green rain has been silent. No birds, no insects nothing. Just silence. It kills every creature indiscriminately.

1080 appears kinder on the poisoners' consciences - like using Predator drones to kill at a great distance.

That is, until they wake one morning at 1 am and really think about it.

If the argument for pre European settlement is to hold any water, then Trout and non native Pines would also be on the hit list.
Their thinking is warped in the extreme

Originally Posted by Pengy

If the argument for pre European settlement is to hold any water, then Trout and non native Pines would also be on the hit list.
Their thinking is warped in the extreme

Has already happened Pengy - Look at the de-nuding of the original acclimisation societies (now combined into Fish and Game that has become almost toothless) and the lack of changes to protect species in leglislation over the last 30 years in the face of increased pressures (irrigation, drought/flood protection, dirty dairying etc and lack of environmental safeguards) as evidence of this. Twig and tweets original pursuit was to rid NZ water ways of invasive sport and coarse fish and let natives come back (yeah right) even if it means wholesale killing of every fish in the waterway by poison.... - Their members pretty much controlled DOC and probably still do as I remember it.

This is Greens/Forrest&Bird/ DoC - standard playbook just applied to the Game animals - First strip away the legal protection, the Power of the interest groups, outlaw and vilify it and eradicate in a scorched earth type cleanse...

Standard playbook - when's the next Election?