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hey all does anyone know if there are any farmers near hastings are wanting to have someone shoot a few goats and other unwanted species on there land. as im a young fulla but am responsible and wanting to have a bit of fun while getting some dog tucker and taking out some pests.
cheers
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Also interested in same kind of deal. Let me know. Cheers
@GWH does nzfm still issue permits for their pine blocks up Tutira / Wairoa ways, usualy a few goats and the odd deer lurking around
I was pointed in the direction of nzfm and i sent them an email but they replied saying they refused anymore people into there database and onto their landQuote:
Originally Posted by Hbwanderer
Spoke to 3 cockies on friday avo. They all had goats but no shooting because they believed they did a resonable control on weeds and blackberry. No longer the pest?
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Originally Posted by matthewhall2912
It's their call isn't it. I've lost my biggest and best rabbit shoot because the farmer's son likes seeing the rabbits.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
Jesus, Mr farmer may regret thatQuote:
Originally Posted by MB
That's hilarious. I've heard farmers say similar things about deer too. With that said, it's their land.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
That's actually very true. We farmed cashmere goats for about 30 years, kept them well after the fibre market died because they were great 'organic' herbicide. They would eat blackberry and thistles and all kinds of crap the sheep and cattle would not touch and only move on the pasture when desperate. We only got rid of them once we started planting trees in a big way, goats and trees are not compatible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
FMNZ manage the young pine forest next door to us, but they do a crap job with pest control. I can see huge amounts of deer damage just looking over the boundary fence. I think the issue with those guys is a lot of the plantations they manage are owned by groups of investors, who like the chance to come out and shoot occaisonally, so non-investors don't get a look in.
@Ben Waimata thats FMNZ has a no shooting hinds policy
Really??? If they come over my side of the boundary fence that no hinds policy ends very fast!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbear
Not too sure about that. Some of their newly planted blocks in Northern Hawkes Bay they have literally taken thousands of goats out of each block to the point where you seldom see many at all. They do a pretty reasonable job of pest control overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
As far as no shooting hinds go, that's the first I've heard.
At the end of the day you have to weigh it up don't you. A few tree's damaged by transient deer is a hard thing to deal with. You could spend thousands on pest control and still have the damage done. And to be fair I think as far as deer numbers go it probably isn't very high numbers in the scheme of things.
Anyone who has been into some of the blocks in the likes of parts of Gisborne would understand what high deer numbers are.
A large chunk of fmnz blocks are permitted out to hunt which is better than virtually all forestry companies in Hawkes Bay now. Also there are a lot of people in the database and not enough blocks to give out. Plus investors and staff also like to hunt.
I should have said I don't know anything about FMNZ policies over all, just the specifics of the block next door because I asked the manager about it. His reply was about investors doing the shooting, this might be a one off situation. He also said they intended to do a once annual possum control, which did not impress me. I try to get it done every three-four months.Quote:
Originally Posted by TLB
Yes as you say the pest population is nowhere near as high here as it is in N HB, but what I know is I see a lot of trees looking like this over the boundary fence (then they die and stand there for a year or so brown).
https://i.postimg.cc/V652p0tP/Screen...7-27-30-AM.png
They don't seem to be doing any control at all, as far as I know. What is acceptable loses for pine forests? I don't have a thermal yet, but have borrowed one a few times and seen deer in the pines every time. I'm probably the only guy on this forum who would prefer not to have deer in the backyard.
My place for comparison;
https://i.postimg.cc/WzT6Jdbt/Screen...1-11-58-PM.png
Different tree species, same problem.
Goats have not been a major issue here for several years, just the odd one. But they're coming back with some big mobs both N and S of me on the coast. The new pine block on my N boundary touches another pine block on the coast giving full undercover access to goats so this will no doubt become a problem for me again soon. The only good thing about it is the young guys on the big corporate farm to my S are very keen hunters so they will keep the population down.
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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
Possum control done properly once per year is more than enough. Most of the blocks that we do monitor at 1% rtc or less, that is 1 possum per 100 trap nights.
Possum control in HB is changing. I'm unsure entirely what area it encompasses but from my understanding is the council are going to take the possum control back and contractors are going to do the whole lot which will be monitored to ensure an adequate job is being done. As you would be aware, with the current system outside of the TB area some landowners aren't quite getting around to it.
As far as FMNZ blocks go in HB, out of all of the forestry blocks we have done, they tend to have the lowest possum densities compared to other forestry companies.
They do goat control pretty intensively for 5 years. After that more often than not the forest supervisor will continue to shoot them each visit. And often the deer too if they see them.
They have a very passionate ecologist that works for them, skogs.mark on Instagram. He is against pests more than most and often volunteers to do pest control in the weekends outside of work too.
Unfortunately in the future there will be even more deer and once the trees get too big to see into they won't just be harder to hunt but will push out more readily to better feed ie the neighboring farms.