gutted!

little yarn for ya, shot a real nice hind from 250 300m and couldn't find her, had a real long decent look too.. went back the next day before flying out and my brother found her. choice as, but she was a bit smelly and still warm under where she had been lying and her fur was pulling off real easy but went to work gutting and skinning her as we wanted to get as much meat as possible to the butcher, I had put two shots in her chest uphill and managed to cut her kidney in half and one through the lungs so she wouldn't have taken too long to pass away however the smell was pretty bad... butcher said she had bone taint and couldn't get any meat off her. I'm real gutted and real sad for the animal.. Attachment 114248 shot from down by the hay bales

poor thing was missing a foot too

That's a bummer, at least you know she was dead and not laying around wounded.

It happens Blisters. It’s a shame though to have lost the meat.

Buga, you got to get them gutted pretty quick or bone taint will set in

Why fly when there is a perfectly good road in the background?

Mate, you'd worry me more if you felt nothing for the animal. A degree of empathy is a must for the hunter in my opinion.

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Buga, you got to get them gutted pretty quick or bone taint will set in

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yeah it was minus 1 over night and 4 degrees all day and raining so was hoping it was ok

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sth1 as well hah

Yeah that smell is a tell tale eh. I lost one that dropped on the spot but tumbled far and over the edge into a ravine in papa country. Was a stupid place to shoot it with hindsight. Man I was cross. Couldn't get down there safely on my own, let alone get out. Walked up the river next morning, which was mission in its own right, despite cold temps overnight the deer was blown up and very smelly. Doesn't take long, gotta get those guts out and cooled down pronto. Couldn't even bring myself to take it for dog tucker.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune @Blisters.

This raises an interesting question for me. I have very little sense of smell.

How to tell if the meat's no good, apart from obvious cues, like bloating and discoloration?

Not sure there are other ways to know. If it is still warm over night then I'd just not bother.

I have gotten bone taint from a pig during the day I shot it.

If you can't get the guts out quick even the coldest night will probably not make it possible to recover anything.

That is a bugger.
I have done it a couple of times, the last one I shot right on dark and it fell down a rock shute into ravine hell, no way was I going down there to recover it in the dark with my young son so we were back at daylight. I boned out the hindquarters and backsteaks on the side of the hill, the side on the ground was still slightly warm but all the meat was fine other than some bruising from its tumble.

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This raises an interesting question for me. I have very little sense of smell.

How to tell if the meat's no good, apart from obvious cues, like bloating and discoloration?

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Green around the joints.

Being there done that...[emoji53]


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Buga, you got to get them gutted pretty quick or bone taint will set in

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Even gutted you've gotta get them chilled asap. As a butcher we used to get a lot of wild pigs in during summer that were knackered due to bone taint. Often it could be 2-3+ hour walk out with it during the middle of a hot day and another few hours to get it into the shop; or even the next day.

The synovial fluid in the knee and ball joint is neutral PH; the perfect level for bacteria. During summer abbatoirs often cut into these joints to release the fluid even though they go straight into a chiller. also; deer skins for tanning often slip in the front leg and back leg pits because if they're carried out like a backpack the heat stays in those tight areas.

A real shame Blisters, but it's not what you set out to do, just one of those things, so nothing to feel bad about. I shot a deer recently. Hit it exactly where I wanted it to, but the animal ran further than expected. I panicked thinking I was going to lose it and made the worst comedy follow-up shot in the history of hunting! Had to ditch some meat and was pretty paranoid about the rest (turned out to be fine). Horrible feeling.

Bugger.

I once shot a fallow doe at last light (in England) and couldn’t find it. It was a very cold and frosty night and I was back there looking at first light. Found the doe dead, but the badgers had been at it all night and there was little left of the haunches. We took the loins and left the rest. Always a shame to waste meat like that, but at least it’s some comfort to know the animal died close to where it was shot.

go the hunting dog.....finding a downed deer is just SOO much easier...good on you for going back to find her and trying to retrieve meat...next time.

this is an interesting discussion. at the other end of the scale, a couple of summers ago, on one of the hottest days of the year, some mates and I had a bomb up and put a few deer down way down in a gully late arvo. we gutted them, and took one load of meat out to the truck (left skin and bone on the rest). very warm night, arrived back in the morning and maggots everywhere. we cut maggots off, boned out the rest. then drove home (about 6 hours) in a very hot car. chilled in fridge after that for a few days before being processed and frozen. have eaten a lot of it, and no issues.

second story - this roar we got some meat early in the trip and due to poor organisation, left in back of truck for maybe 5 days, and then in fridge for another 5 or so before being frozen (i bought a mincer and was waiting for it to arrive). this meat has a bit of a funky smell when you start cooking it, but still tastes fine as long as there is enough flavouring with it.

so more of a question really for people that know more about meat (and are better organised) than i am.... what is the big deal about leaving it overnight? is it dangerous? or is it more to do with our society being terrified of germs? ive heard of people purposefully letting it go green purposefully to make it tender and add to the flavour.... or if thats not you, you can just cut off anything that looks green and the rest is fine, no?

i should add that i absolutely agree about getting guts out asap, so my post is probably not super relevant to the original. i was more responding to the follow ups about meat going bad even with guts out

You can get food poisoning from bone taint. You can cook it really hot but the toxins would still remain.

I am more keen on less tender meat than tender food poisoning

Getting it off of the bone is key if it cant be cooled quickly.

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This raises an interesting question for me. I have very little sense of smell.

How to tell if the meat's no good, apart from obvious cues, like bloating and discoloration?

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lick it

Interesting discussion and intriguing to read different peoples experiences. I've often heard or read of people recovering a shot deer the next day but it's always seemed a bit iffy to me. I'm all for cooling down that meat as fast as possible. I guess it also depends on where it was shot, how long it took to die (and therefore how much tainted blood was circulated etc.). I guess for me next day recovery would not be an intentional choice but only as a result of not being able to locate the animal as in the story above.

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... and made the worst comedy follow-up shot in the history of hunting!

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I'm quoting myself. Can't believe no one asked where the follow up shot landed!

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I'm quoting myself. Can't believe no one asked where the follow up shot landed!

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well ?????

Thank you dannyb! In the arsehole! The deer was running directly away from me and I had the base of it's neck in the crosshairs when I pulled the trigger. It's arse must of stuck up at just the wrong moment. The entry wound wasn't visible when I found the animal and I assumed the second shot missed. On boning, things weren't right. The lower intestines and the stomach had been damaged and I couldn't work out why. Then I got to the pelvis, it was in multiple pieces and the penny finally dropped! To add insult to injury, the first shot had hit the heart and at least one lung.

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Thank you dannyb! In the arsehole! The deer was running directly away from me and I had the base of it's neck in the crosshairs when I pulled the trigger. It's arse must of stuck up at just the wrong moment. The entry wound wasn't visible when I found the animal and I assumed the second shot missed. On boning, things weren't right. The lower intestines and the stomach had been damaged and I couldn't work out why. Then I got to the pelvis, it was in multiple pieces and the penny finally dropped! To add insult to injury, the first shot had hit the heart and at least one lung.

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The old texas heart shot