Another helpful and insightful report from Jan by the looks of things...:(
Independent Environment watchdog Says DOC Should... | Stuff.co.nz
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Another helpful and insightful report from Jan by the looks of things...:(
Independent Environment watchdog Says DOC Should... | Stuff.co.nz
there are better options than using 1080, that article is saying everyone should rely on the crap.
Ffs
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:pissed off:
That bloody woman infuriates me. I spoke to her in Rotorua once and offered to take her into the bush to experience the silence after a 1080 drop. she was not in the slightest bit interested.
I raised the issue at our annual GM of the NZDA....The government using my tax dollars to fund DOC to drop indiscriminatly on 'National Parks'....not holding my breath......
Those drops would be better placed over a beehive :pissed off:
All over the news this morning :rolleyes:
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Yeh I am not happy. DoC don't need any bloody encouragement when it comes to spreading that shit.
and the viable alternative is???............................................. .................................................. .........
Spend the money on that exact research, why are we one of if not thee last country using the shit?? Must already be an alternative one would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
More 1080 the coast storage is all of 200m from work :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
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Does she call herself an environmentalist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunty1
Do they ever "accidently" spread it on private land or are they at least good enough to stay away from there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
I saw a trap being used on a program (NZ) targeting stoats, the adult female was attracted to bait at the end of the 'trap', she would rub her flanks/stomach over 'poison' (dont know which one) which her youngQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
would suck/lick off her when she returned to the nest.......goodbye next generation......... trap would stay active for months, not just one chicken egg which have to be replaced costing many 'man hours'.......
would much rather see 'direct extermination' like this targeting specific species (this would work on rats too) rather than indiscriminate 'drop' which kills ALL species and gets into the water supply....
Im not that naive to think it would eradicate all NZs pests, but this 'blanket poisoning' has to stop.....
1080 is one of those things not many hunters like they are killing my deer bla bla bla, there is nothing else that comes close to possum control like it does for the cost. Trappers make a good living out of it but to much country to do that to so has to be done other ways.
Go into a 1080 area few months after a drop its quite in the bush with most things gone but so have the possums. You could have made good money driving the road doing coons down south way ask coaster. Now you don't see anywhere near as many on the road and wouldn't pay for gas money. . . .
Drop the 1080 gets my vote nothing controls it like it does. And deer come back. . ..
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Deer do come back yes if its a relatively small area poisoned.
If all of westland was poisoned the iconic trophy heards would be gone forever.
Lets not forget pest free nz is the goal here. That means hunting free nz too !
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Anyone got the number for the Pied Piper?
Out of interest, how does one actually get Pied?
Multicolour yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Is it an abbreviation for "tie dyed"?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
Seeing as how you asked
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Was kinda thinking along the same idea. Maybe that's why the rats like him so much? leftover pie bits to gnaw on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Abbreviation of piebald from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
I like Rushy's one better. Makes me hungryQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
Oh how easy it is to take a thread right off topic.
Same, reading piebald Neckshot springs to mind :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Some threads are more deserving than othersQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Mmmmmm piQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
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Go Pi!
Thats a hard case movie aye......I personally think he took to much acid!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
What replaces it?
Never will be pest free but still have to be controlled and it's the most cost effective way for success even with its draw backs.
It maybe trophy potential down there but could do with a clean out as well with scrubbers an deer numbers still thrive down there. . . .
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I understand her not wanting to go bush with you, especially when you mention a "dawn chorus"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
At least investigating alternatives, instead of head up arseQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
Sic the young PT Dundee on them with his new bow. Should have them gone in no time.Quote:
Originally Posted by tui_man2
I can even help with a suggestion Maca. If we are open to an alternate view point and come at the issue from the angle that possums, stoats and rats aren't the problem and rather that possums, stoats and rats procreating are the problem then all that needs to be done is for DSIR to come up with a species specific sterilisation drug, whack it into a shitload of pellets and aerial apply repeatedly across the country. Not a stoat or rat left in five years and no possums after 12. BAM!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Yeah, cause genetic mutation is so much more palatable than poison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
They're working on something similar in Australia for Carp. Trying to work on creating "daughterless carp" which will in theory breed themselves out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Very expensive though that kind of work and takes years and there are no guarantees. The problem with those sorts of things is the risk of non target species being affected.
I probably already said this but in Aus we're about a year away from releasing PAPP as a replacement for 1080 on pigs and dogs (foxes, wild dogs, dingos etc.). Doesn't effect natives i.e. your possums but could maybe work on stoats!
Read again.. Not talking mutation. Talking sterilisation. Sterilisation equals no reproduction. Nothing gets mutatedQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
