Micky is a professional, he will be like an all black waiting on the sideline with a yellow card.
His ban must be almost up and he will be bursting back onto the field full of energy and plenty of go forward.
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Micky is a professional, he will be like an all black waiting on the sideline with a yellow card.
His ban must be almost up and he will be bursting back onto the field full of energy and plenty of go forward.
About 90km from my place.
It is the measure of a person to take criticism on board and move on.
Plenty on here probably regret what they have posted at times.
It is everybody's responsibility to consider what they post and this media is difficult to get right at times.
Not like face to face with other cues indicating where you are coming from.
It has been disappointing to see some contributors drop off of over something I showed no interest in and wasn't following.
Everybody can and does contribute and the gems they produce are priceless.
Some were better than Bunji in that they were genuine and it is a pity they have been banned or pulled the pin
The mods have a shit of a job, a bit like speaker of the house.
They have to moderate as well as contribute which is a tough act.
Any way everybody have a good festive break and tell us what you got up to in the New Year.
The last one I shot was at 30 metres, but it was only because it was obscuring my view of the one 600 metres away that I wanted to shoot with my expensive gear.
This comment made in honour of Mr Duck.
This poll interesting because it shows me shooting distance has NOT changed alot since 60s-70s. 50% of animals in this poll were shot between 0-100m, about 73% shot 0-200m, and 85% shot within 300m. Approx. That's not really different to 40-50 years ago - even though quality of most rifles and certainly optics has improved. Shooting usually governed by conditions and not necessarily longer range capability of modern arms.
Tends to confirm my own view that LR arms/optics setups not necessary for NZ field shooting. They are for one segment of our shooting fraternity - ideal choice of course for 400-1000m competition shooting, or perhaps southern mountain chamois/thar etc. But .. also true to say we shot those thar etc comfortably with the 270s/308s of the day with a Pecar Berlin 4x sitting on them. My view - LR gear no neccessity, but if its your hobby interest then my all means go for it!
Be interesting to see a north/south island breakdown from the figures above. Most of our deer in the past in the north were well under 100m. Bush shots. That will still hold - average distance still likely well under 100m. South more open so more frequent longer shots, and one would expect higher average distance.
The last one I shot was 60 meters, normal average would be 200 meters.
Well I've lived in the deep south for 10 years and most of the deer I shoot are sub 300 with the vast majority being sub 150.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
It also depends on what part of the south island you're talking about. Fiordland, Westcoast, Rakiura can be both bush hunting but both equally clearings and open country. But I do agree it would be very interesting to see how it breaks down in terms of SI vs NI and into that what regions people are shooting.
The poll itself doesn't really mean dick squat, it only asked for the distance of the LAST animal you shot, the last 2 i have shot have been about 50 meters which is the distance i put in the poll, the 6-10 before that were 200meters plus, The poll would have been better off, if it asked for an average of range that deer were shot in last 12 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgripz
Its all relative tho i wouldnt been looking at it like a survey to take numbers from.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUNTY
The season is ripe for easier hunting too, fresh grass kicking around and silly spikers out trying to find there feet.
Last one i shot was in a stag group, shot a spiker, stags too off but 3 spikers hung around for another few minutes before taking too the bush.
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Not really. That’s not how statistics work.
If you sample a big enough group you get good data. It’s just as likely a long range hunter shot 9 of her last 10 deer at distances over 600M But the last one was at 25M.
As you say if you take a 10 shot average you get a very different result. But so long as the overall sample size is big enough you get a good representation.
I would guess a bigger issue is exaggeration.
Plenty of blowhards in the world, and while Bunji maybe gone, there’s bound to be the odd one like him here.
Bring back Mick
Yup. Maybe a poll that shows up a more usefull result (but unlikely to do so due to the blowhard bullshit LH mentions) would be "how far away was the last deer you missed" Now that would be interesting.
Reading that I straight away thought of two awesome miss story's......it could have potential [emoji41]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
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Ive often said "Icant hit a cows arse with a shovel "does that count
" Like my duck /goose shooting if i do get birds my standing explanation is "nup didnt shoot em -they were laughing so much at the idiot on the ground they had a heart attack and well dropped dead!" in saying that though manys the feral goose whose peaceful slumber was terminated by my well placed texas heart shot sometimes as close as3m (living in dead flax bushes.) or suprise suprise"oh shit oh dear not himagain time to fly" ..BOOM.
great fun and excellent practise for close quarter snap shooting.possums -get as close as i can to the bloody snarling moosh spitting&cackling then deliver the terminal blow job.5-10m typical.
Yep not sure how much info would be gleaned, but I think it would be entertaining if nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
My last miss was 5 shots at animals ago. A fallow doe and I really needed meat as had just moved and wed emptied our freezers before moving. She was quartering towards me at 100 meters. After the shot I saw her ghosting through the scrub and I have no idea what I did wrong. In fact I was so sure I had done nothing wrong that I spent the rest of the morning with the dog searching the area. Dogs dont lie.
So I will make a presumption of likely cause. I hurried because meat was important and if I miss its generally a tendency to shoot over top of something and maybe it was 150 instead of 100 and she wasn't standing where I thought she was. Often in case like that is is a lot of small things that add up too one big miss.
Here’s another curveball:
I head shot a reasonable (for me) 10 pointer 2 roars ago at a tad over 400M, steeply down hill.
I didn’t have a great shooting position, and wasn’t as steady as I would have liked, but I had cleanly dropped a couple of fallow at that range just a few weeks earlier, and hadn’t missed or needed 2 shots for years.
First shot seemed to be a complete miss, he just looked around, hardly moved. Lined up again, boom; he disappeared. He was standing on a tiny clearing, and was mostly behind a tree.
Big climb down, across a river and up, not really expecting to find him, only to find a head shot stag.
Thing is I was aiming for centre chest…..
Total fluke.
Unethical shooting right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lauries Hut
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Last animal was a red hind at 199. One before that was on the same clearing at the same distance. One before that was 495. All in the open tussock above the bush line in the central north island.
I think what this poll really shows is some of yis have far too much time on your hands. Get off the computer and go hunting.
The op definitely had way to much time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
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So Andy and folks, tell us about your last miss on a game animal (any size or shape will do) . . .. ? Too keep it simple let's keep it to animals standing still. The reason I ask is it's often very difficult to remember misses. Harder still to determine if it was a "clean miss" or did you just not hear the hit, or be able to find it, or in many cases where it's across any significant amount of terrain, did you even go look?Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Isn't this an oxymoron? Someone logging into an internet site. To tell others who are talking about the last deer they shot. To log off and go hunting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
This one is easy for me, had found a really nice fallow buck a few weeks before, hanging out with 8 does and young 'uns. Stayed well away and kept watching him, always in the late afternoon, could never find him in the mornings. finally decided the weather was right for a hunt and walked in his area. Poked around a few willows and gorse, put a pig up at about 10 metres. But the wind was all good and all I had to do was stalk along the bushline and keep my eye out. Along the way I had to dodge a few does, but they slowly fed away. So, still all good. After about 300 metres of this sneaky injun stuff i climb up about 2 metres on a game trail to a bit of a terrace. Couldnt see squat, bloody shoulder high gorse scattered everywhere. And then as i looked upwind and spotted something odd, couldnt make it out. Then it slowly rose to become a set of bloody big paddles, then it moved around a tad and then changed to antler below the paddles. This whole time Im trying to find something, anything, that would allow me to take the shot - nothing. So I figured, I've done this before, how many times? a few. So I slowly raised the rifle and seconds later the antlers gave way to head, then to neck. At this point Im thinking, Im all over this, what could possibly go wrong? As I watched through the scope, he looked around, chewed a bit, looked left, then right. And then he snapped back and just steered in my direction. i only had my head and rifle above the bushes, I was stock still just waiting for the opportunity. After what seemed like a bloody eternity, he went back to looking around his domain. At that point I squeezed the trigger aiming about 50mm below his nose height to give me heaps of elevatiion "play room". Bugger me if he didnt just up race off and I got several looks at him doing 90 to the dozen through the gorse. No blood, no staggering, bloody nothing! I was gutted, after all these years the only other head I want on my wall is a decent truly wild fallow buck. And I had just stuffed it up. Seventy metres. After 30 minutes of tracking him and putting the dog in, there was nothing, i had missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
About 6 weeks later I was with a mate and his pig dogs, hunting the same area and a fallow doe hung in real tight after the dogs had bailed and as I was walking in to the bail, she exploded out of the scrub about 10 metres from me. Ran right out in the open. I gave a bit of a hind/fawn call and she stopped side on at 40 metres. I dropped her, with the same rifle, aiming for the front shoulder cos I didnt want a repeat performance. Bugger me, one tiny little bullet hole exactly where i aimed!
How far away was the last deer I shot?
It was 47k away.....I stealthily closed the distance to 46k using the Suzuki Vitara......then even more stealthily I moved in on foot. finally squeezed the shot off with the T1X in 17HMR when I was within 5 metres of it.............head shot, dropped it on the spot. Nice yearling for christmas munchies..
I don't take the shot if I'm not 100% sure of a hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentman
I bang on about ethical shooting so I don't do unethical shooting .
Use the right caliber for the right animal and stick to placing your shots in the kill zone which might be head and neck up to a certain distance with the skill set and equipment you have on hand and further out to the vitals area.
I shoot a lot of steel so I do know my distance and wind limits that I shoot in.
Basically know your limitations and stick to them.
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One of the rare few that have never missed an animal in their lives, well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
As for the rest of you guys well done for your honesty, we are all human and that doesn't make you less ethical.
I think perhaps you need to go back and read what the post Andy was replying to.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
Someone who kept plugging at a deer with no ideas what's going on.....
I'm sure Andy has missed more than one deer, but he's also forgotten more than most on this thread will ever no about long range shooting.
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When I used to identify as a trigger yanker i might have missed a couple!Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
I have progressed a bit from there.
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I’d be interested to know what you identify as now? A self righteous holy than thou…..
Here we go again
Nuffs enuff aye fellas :thumbsup: