How not to kill a cow

i'd expect there would be protocol that should be followed. I'm a fireman and we have plenty so i bet there is some behind this situation that we wouldn't know about.

I bet it goes something like, Wild (as in state) animal running loose in an urban area likely to cause harm should be contained immediately, use necessary force.

I thought i read earlier today that it was heading to a busy part of town so that meant it had to be dealt with urgently.

heinsight is a wonderful thing but at the end of the day the animal is deceased and no one got hurt. mission complete.

if they had of let it carry on, and it run over your grandma or child walking to school everyone would be bagging them for doing nothing. they have dealt with it and so can you.

Few deep breaths? Yep done, thanks Tommy.
I must apologise for the outburst to the good buggers here( the majority).
Baggin the police when they have the public's saftey to ensure is just not cool or warranted.
Get a life borax and co.

What a bunch of cowboys!

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Originally Posted by kidmac42

Few deep breaths? Yep done, thanks Tommy.
I must apologise for the outburst to the good buggers here( the majority).
Baggin the police when they have the public's saftey to ensure is just not cool or warranted.
Get a life borax and co.

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I respect the police but come on firing like that in town was crazy im really surprised at the lack of comments from the ones that have quotes from the 7 basic rules check your firing zone , always point in a safe direction etc etc...I must be missing something !!

Your missing that you cant see where the hell he is shooting or his background.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Didn't he use a pistol? Despite the Ar loading seen.
The 9mm wouldn't go through a cows head.
Tap it in the x between the eyes and ears and it'll drop even with a 22, yes it's not easy when the fuckr is chasing you, I no I've done it, more than once.

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Definitely looks like an Ar to me just after the 1st shot if you can see it against the background.
They shoot remington core lock factory ammo.

Only shot that looks bad to me is the 1st one as the cow charges towards him i would think a head shot would be an option on an angry moving cow, dosnt take much of a head wip to miss. Body shots much safer in a built up area.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

The hastings cops used to be well practiced at the stortford lodge sale yards when the Chatham Island cattle came in they often took a look around and headed to somewhere else:)

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Know what you mean Brads- we once had the "fortune" to get some of them despite telling the stock agent we wanted quiet cattle. One bitch jumped off the truck and straight through four fences. Took me two days to get her back from the neighbouring farm and she never settled down. Even after 18 months, she would still bolt if you looked at her within 50yds and I had to shoot her as she was impossible to get on the truck.

Had 1 come head down at me one day in the bush, took 3 shots from my jungle carbine to put her down. Just like hunting Buff in Africa whoowee. I was hunting her and was prepared, except I wasn't prepared for her speed and aggression. Poor Cop must of been scared, but he did stand his ground and got the job done. The placement of his bullets might of had a lot to do with the background, and he might of played safe and aimed for the big target for area safety. I would of done the same

Alot of criticism for the boys in blue on here. I think the guys at the scene did the best they could with the given situation. No one knows whether he has 20 years of farming behind him or if they only experience he has with animals is a police dog. Alot of assumptions going on. At the end of the day he defused the situation without any harm to any of member of the public or property. I would call that a success. No one on here hits animals with every shot they've ever made and saying that most of us have rests/bipods and a still animal not an adrenaline filled stressed cow charging at us.

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Originally Posted by Boaraxa

well how much danger was the cow really ? in a 50k zone with plenty of cop cars to at the least aleart others something was up so guess you could rule out crashes so long as no1 was directly infront of it would more than likely not go out of its way to maul anyone ....

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Have a look at the video again, the cow goes right past a disabled person on a wheelchair who was waiting at the pedestrian crossing, on the left hand side of the road. So she's not exactly in a position to get out of the way in a hurry if the cow even turned towards her.

Because the cops didn't know who else was on the road ahead, including any kids, they did the right job and stopped it. Even if it took 10 shots from an AR.

I think the cop did the right thing, there was no other option imo,
It is clear from the body language of the cow that any other options where we'll gone, make no mistake get between her and where she's going and prepare to get hit buy a 500kg train with feet.
As was said worst case scenario would be some kids walking out a driveway.
My issue at the start was the number of shots......but then not everyone knows how's to drop a cattle beast, and safe firing zones come into play.
Makes the forum fun, people from different backgrounds with different opinions and skill sets.[emoji106]🏻

Oh and boaraxa next time I muster up a grumpy old bush cow that's lost her calf I'll put her in the yards and chase her round for an hour, then come jump in then you'll see how much danger there is[emoji3]


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Originally Posted by BRADS

I think the cop did the right thing, there was no other option imo,
It is clear from the body language of the cow that any other options where we'll gone, make no mistake get between her and where she's going and prepare to get hit buy a 500kg train with feet.
As was said worst case scenario would be some kids walking out a driveway.
My issue at the start was the number of shots......but then not everyone knows how's to drop a cattle beast, and safe firing zones come into play.
Makes the forum fun, people from different backgrounds with different opinions and skill sets.[emoji106]��

Oh and boaraxa next time I muster up a grumpy old bush cow that's lost her calf I'll put her in the yards and chase her round for an hour, then come jump in then you'll see how much danger there is[emoji3]


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And it may even be a WHITE cow, or even BROWN or RED

mine was black, Angus I guess

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Originally Posted by Gapped axe

mine was black, Angus I guess

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They taste the best ;)

this one didn't, tasted crap and that was with the help from my butcher mate who was with me when I shot it. Must of been it's diet or the full grown calf she had with her. Wanted both but had to concentrate on her, I thought she was going to eat me.

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Originally Posted by BRADS

I think the cop did the right thing, there was no other option imo,
It is clear from the body language of the cow that any other options where we'll gone, make no mistake get between her and where she's going and prepare to get hit buy a 500kg train with feet.
As was said worst case scenario would be some kids walking out a driveway.
My issue at the start was the number of shots......but then not everyone knows how's to drop a cattle beast, and safe firing zones come into play.
Makes the forum fun, people from different backgrounds with different opinions and skill sets.[emoji106]🏻

Oh and boaraxa next time I muster up a grumpy old bush cow that's lost her calf I'll put her in the yards and chase her round for an hour, then come jump in then you'll see how much danger there is[emoji3]


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any chance we should take up a collection "givea little"for dunny paper for boraxa
after hes gone a round or two for a pound or two with Brads wee pet.
I vividly remember my aunty being roughed up by a bloody mad heifer because the silly bitch thought her calf was being kidnapped.one of the kids walked up to it -it sqwuaked she spun and didnt hesitate -luckily she was able to scoop wee one up and biff her over the gate but hell she(aunty) took a hiding.he also had a bloody old dairy bull who charged the tractor once .both cases ended with application of .44/40slug out of the old winchester lever action. if we went near the stock whilst visiting you'd hear it 3 paddocks away.Voice like a foghorns fart had uncle mike!
Oh yeah the saddest bit -the previous owners wife was drowned in the drain running through the property .she was on the tractor crossing the bridge when a cow charges-looking behind her at the cow -puts tractor wheel over edge -cocky found her pinned under the tractor in about 4'of eel ridden water!
Sometimes me thinks if i was a cop and constantly copped all this shit from so called experts Id be turnin round and say "here fuck you -show me how its done "90%of em would about turn and run a bloody country mile or avoid it with typical pissweak excuse.
us psych nurses cop this sort of shit too especially when we have to deal with aggro+++++specimens of DNA,Im still feeling the effects of a wee bit of full contact argy bargy with one who came at us like a PMT infested scrub bull two nights ago after hurling his hot meal at us -stew at high velocity is not exactly edible!!

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Originally Posted by Gibo

They taste the best ;)

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Say what ya like still crazy in my view could just as easly been someone shot ...I grew up on a farm so I no how mad cows can go especially with a calf....so you can keep your toilet paper for wiping your patient's butts kotuku :x_x:

We do a couple of organic beefys each year try and do a different breed each time so far the 2 best have been murry grey or belted Galloway :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Boaraxa

Say what ya like still crazy in my view could just as easly been someone shot ...I grew up on a farm so I no how mad cows can go especially with a calf....so you can keep your toilet paper for wiping your patient's butts kotuku :x_x:

We do a couple of organic beefys each year try and do a different breed each time so far the 2 best have been murry grey or belted Galloway :thumbsup:

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I was referring to your 'BLACK' call. Seemed way out of the BLUE in terms of the rest of the thread.

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Originally Posted by Boaraxa

Say what ya like still crazy in my view could just as easly been someone shot ...I grew up on a farm so I no how mad cows can go especially with a calf....so you can keep your toilet paper for wiping your patient's butts kotuku :x_x:

We do a couple of organic beefys each year try and do a different breed each time so far the 2 best have been murry grey or belted Galloway :thumbsup:

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Just remember that your view doesn't include the lead up events, other efforts made to contain the beast, surrounding areas, firing zone, surrounding areas, officer's POV etc. However it did have a pretty embarrassing commentary.

I'm not saying it was ideal, 10+ shots in a built up area never will be, but what situation that Police face ever is? They're just normal people in uniform, not masters of every trade. I never pass negative judgement on what I don't have a decent amount of knowledge on.

That's a different interpretation of a 'steak out'?? :D

I don't know how to link it but , if you have face book ,,, go to swazi page , video on there of a farmer and a bitch of a cow that charges and runs right over his quad and his mate legs it up the hill ... funny as hell to watch ,,, but it also shows a farmer would have shot this bastard if he had his gun ......cop did the right thing ....

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Originally Posted by stumpy

I don't know how to link it but , if you have face book ,,, go to swazi page , video on there of a farmer and a bitch of a cow that charges and runs right over his quad and his mate legs it up the hill ... funny as hell to watch ,,, but it also shows a farmer would have shot this bastard if he had his gun ......cop did the right thing ....

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That's the worst video ever, they aren't farmers, they where two dicks who had no idea what they where doing.
As with the police video it was way clear at the first seen what the cow wanted to do, rather than go get the rest of the cows and bring them back they did well the dumbest bit and tried to chase her.


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Well sad to say I think you all missed the point here :D its not the shot placement it's the caliber clearly... If the police had been still armed with SLRs then the cow would have gone down first shot.

Bring back .308

I suggest youre a boy in a mans underpants and as for police work you wouldnt know your arse from your elbow boyo. ive had previous experience with your type "all hat fuck all cattle"
dont bother replying ,im not interested!

That was clearly a joke. Speaking of underpants, yours are on your head mate - get your shit together.

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Originally Posted by Boaraxa

I respect the police but come on firing like that in town was crazy im really surprised at the lack of comments from the ones that have quotes from the 7 basic rules check your firing zone , always point in a safe direction etc etc...I must be missing something !!

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Yup

All new low scores of reading and comprehension on NZHS
Spelling has always been appaling lets face it :D:D:D

I enjoyed the commentary and wondered what a taser would do except piss the cow off even more.

Fair play to the cop involved. He was on a hiding to nothing as soon as he had to intervene.

no tommy they aint and its no joke! comprehende? the cop who was confronted with a bloody dangerous situation has a fucking split second to make the decision_take action,,all the time knowing full well hell be damned if he does and damned if he doesnt by knowall keyboard warriors or lardass politicians academics and fuckin anti police activists,none of whom were there to actuaslly witness it ,but rely on a fucked up MSM.
The fact we had a person offer such a post on this forum suprised me as its more typical of the simpering left leaning gossips on tarde me message boards.here one generally gets a more baslanced consideration in an opinion. however each to their own and obviously you seem to feel I was a bit hard .if so rest assured thats mild !

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Originally Posted by scottrods

I enjoyed the commentary and wondered what a taser would do except piss the cow off even more.

Fair play to the cop involved. He was on a hiding to nothing as soon as he had to intervene.

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Taser no good that's for sure. It would give the animal a 5 second ride and then what? Hand cuffs lol or another 5 second ride... yep I think you are right, it would only end up pissing the thing off even more. How ever if an animal control (X3W) was used then that would change it a bit (Not sure if these are even available here in NZ yet) but then you are still stuck with what to do with the animal.

Aaah I get it. Going off on a complete tangent and cracking a joke is copyright. Yeah I comprendè mate, most people just scratch their heads and wonder if you're getting into the patients meds tho. Calm. The. Fuck. Down.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Aaah I get it. Going off on a complete tangent and cracking a joke is copyright. Yeah I comprendè mate, most people just scratch their heads and wonder if you're getting into the patients meds tho. Calm. The. Fuck. Down.

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stick that up your jaffa ass pal-you seem to think youre a comedian!tuis anyone.you dunno shit form clay as to my career and im bettin youd run a country mile .

Don't be so subtle kotuku, tell us what you really think! :ORLY:

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Originally Posted by kotuku

stick that up your jaffa ass pal-you seem to think youre a comedian!tuis anyone.you dunno shit form clay as to my career and im bettin youd run a country mile .

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I know a few mental health nurses actually, is this you in calm mode, or bully mode? I couldn't give a flying fuck that you are, you dribble absolute unintelligible shit most of the time, while trying to be a comedian yourself. As for being a Jaffa? So what, I'm not from here , not that it matters.

Wow come on chaps play nice.
It's just the bloody Internet


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Originally Posted by BRADS

Wow come on chaps play nice.
It's just the bloody Internet

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Been a while since we had a flare up :D bit of a silly one but

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DOC must love it when something like this crops up on the internet.

I can imagine their smoko conversation as they browse the forum to see what sort of shit we are talking. "Good" they will say. "Lets slip on a few extra tons while the anti-1080 loonies are all distracted". :)