Thread: Hunter shot in Kaimai Range near Te Aroha

Originally Posted by Timmay

Be as responsible as you can whilst hunting, you can't control the actions of others.

You take more of a risk driving on the road to your hunt than you actually do hunting.

I'd also loose the orange blaze mate

Originally Posted by GWH

I'd also loose the orange blaze mate

@GWH , why lose the orange blaze ?

Originally Posted by Milan501

@GWH , why lose the orange blaze ?

It's quite commonly accepted that it actually makes you a target, in low light under bush canopy and when it's obstructed behind scrub etc it looks very similar to deer colour.

I've witnessed this myself in a roar situation. Scared the crap out of me.

Some of the more recent miss-ID shootings have involved the victim wearing blaze orange.

I will never wear it! And many others share the same opinion.

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Plenty of bush, just not a lot of easy bush so they get concentrated near road ends and walking tracks. Get 2-3 hours in off the tracks and you'll be a lot safer.

Aaah...thanks for explaining that Gibo. I've only ever hunted privately owned farms, hence my limited local knowledge.

Originally Posted by outlander

Aaah...thanks for explaining that Gibo. I've only ever hunted privately owned farms, hence my limited local knowledge.

Its reasonably steep on the Waikato side but on the Tauranga side the bush goes for miles and miles.

Originally Posted by GWH

It's quite commonly accepted that it actually makes you a target, in low light under bush canopy and when it's obstructed behind scrub etc it looks very similar to deer colour.

I've witnessed this myself in a roar situation. Scared the crap out of me.

Some of the more recent miss-ID shootings have involved the victim wearing blaze orange.

I will never wear it! And many others share the same opinion.

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Noted thanks , in that case what is the best to wear to make yourself visible to other hunters but not deer ??

Originally Posted by Milan501

Noted thanks , in that case what is the best to wear to make yourself visible to other hunters but not deer ??

To be honest worrying if a deer will 'see' you particular in a bush situation is the least to worry about, they will sooner smell and hear you.

I'm going full left field on this and throwing it out there.
Why not ban Easter hunting?
Then old Johnny that gets his old 270 out once a year only at Easter gives it some crc and packs 48 lion browns into a pack and heads into the hills ain't in there.
He's the type of guy that won't go in during the week and won't go in normal weekend.
Remove old Johnny and she's safer for us All??
The one common thing it seems to me is someone gets shot ever Easter..
As hunters I think we can agree on the fact we are all over it.


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I fear this is not a bad idea given the history of 'accidents' here in NZ

Originally Posted by BRADS

I'm going full left field on this and throwing it out there.
Why not ban Easter hunting?
Then old Johnny that gets his old 270 out once a year only at Easter gives it some crc and packs 48 lion browns into a pack and heads into the hills ain't in there.
He's the type of guy that won't go in during the week and won't go in normal weekend.
Remove old Johnny and she's safer for us All??
The one common thing it seems to me is someone gets shot ever Easter..
As hunters I think we can agree on the fact we are all over it.


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Hmmmm....banning .270s would probably have a similar effect?


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I remember sitting on a bike on a ridge waiting for 3 friends to come back from right down the end of the valley looking for deer. What amazed me was how clearly I could see the one wearing the bright fluro yellow vest as they walked across the clearing. The other 2 in camo were so much harder to see (obviously). The fluro yellow stood out like dog's "whats-its".... from what was probably about 1km away; it looked like a spotlight was on her it was so bright from that distance, . It was only a $5 Chinese shop vest; but it really got me thinking that it would be a cheap investment to help with safety.

Originally Posted by BRADS

I'm going full left field on this and throwing it out there.
Why not ban Easter hunting?
Then old Johnny that gets his old 270 out once a year only at Easter gives it some crc and packs 48 lion browns into a pack and heads into the hills ain't in there.
He's the type of guy that won't go in during the week and won't go in normal weekend.
Remove old Johnny and she's safer for us All??
The one common thing it seems to me is someone gets shot ever Easter..
As hunters I think we can agree on the fact we are all over it.


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Not trying to pick a fight but yea that's all good and well if your lucky enough to have your own bit of private land to shoot on and can control who's there at given times some of us aren't so lucky and can only go when time and work permits may as well go the full hog and ban shooting all together then no one will ever get shot again possibly a better idea might be doing a safety course when applying for a permit

I don't think it is a particular type of hunter that does this - seems to be both once-a-year warriors as well as guys considered very experienced. If anything, I would say it is more likely to happen to experienced guys going on the incidents reported over the last couple of years.

Similar to motorcycle accidents. You get a lot of them in newbie riders, then it tapers off, and then a very high percentage in older riders who come back to riding in middle age.

I also don't think anyone specifically sets out with the intention of shooting a human being. Not saying this has not happened before, but pretty unlikely in the vast majority of these cases.

If you've been around guys with guns long enough, you WILL end up knowing someone who takes snap shots, who is suspect when it comes to safe handling or positively identifying targets.... And believing it will never happen to YOU is part of the problem - I think if you speak to any one of the guys who ended up shooting someone they will tell you they fell into that category before it happened

Every year we have the same debate, and yet nothing seems to change...

Easiest way is to avoid the DOC bush during the roar.

Originally Posted by GWH

And maybe that's the answer right there. Make it illegal to shoot anything but an antlered deer between mid of March to middle of may (or whatever).

I suggested this a couple years ago on here but got shot down (excuse the pun)

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....41/#post456336