Thread: Hunter shot in Kaimanawa ranges

Hunter shot by other party member. Makes you wonder

A man is fighting for life after being shot by his hunting companion in a central North Island range.

This is the second shooting involving a hunter being mistaken by a deer in the last month.

The 48-year-old Tauranga man was flown to Waikato Hospital by rescue helicopter on Wednesday evening with a critical gunshot wound.

He was in a critical condition on Thursday.

Update on Zane,tubes coming out today,been bringing him round slowly,he gave a nurse the fingers this morning.
They were going to operate again for fragments in the spine but are now going to leave them.
on a colostomy bag for three to six months.

Originally Posted by madjon_

Update on Zane,tubes coming out today,been bringing him round slowly,he gave a nurse the fingers this morning.
They were going to operate again for fragments in the spine but are now going to leave them.
on a colostomy bag for three to six months.

Good luck Zane, keep up the great progress.

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Originally Posted by madjon_

Update on Zane,tubes coming out today,been bringing him round slowly,he gave a nurse the fingers this morning.
They were going to operate again for fragments in the spine but are now going to leave them.
on a colostomy bag for three to six months.

Pass on my best wishes. Me and my ugly mate were in the back seat of the Squirrel on the trip into the Oamaru....

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un - fucken - believable

Here we go again

A couple of mates I hunt with we use the Garmin rhinos for tracking each other’s position especially in close to each other’s hunting area for the day as we normally split up. I would say this type of kit may save a life of your buddy, but no guarantee like Identifying your target.

What I want to know about both these incidents recently is what were the guys wearing? I guess this will come out in the inquest for the poor bugger in the Kaimais. Hope like hell the bloke today pulls through.

I read again recently the research regarding deer sight, the colour spectrums they see, UV reflection etc. Debated again with the wife tonight about her reservations about hunting public land, especially bush. She’s not happy about going into public land anymore - flatly refuses the Kaimais despite the fact we look right at them out the bloody kitchen window.

Problem is its hard to get a definitive position from the science, someone that will say “Deer see X, Y and Z and that’s it”. Its more like well maybe its XYZ but could be ABC and more besides. Luckily we hunt mostly private but I think we take it for granted sometimes and should still wear some kind of hiviz. Whilst we hunt as a couple or with our kids, we only ever take one rifle... its the other bugger that we don’t know is there thats our concern.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

What I want to know about both these incidents recently is what were the guys wearing? I guess this will come out in the inquest for the poor bugger in the Kaimais. Hope like hell the bloke today pulls through.

I read again recently the research regarding deer sight, the colour spectrums they see, UV reflection etc. Debated again with the wife tonight about her reservations about hunting public land, especially bush. She’s not happy about going into public land anymore - flatly refuses the Kaimais despite the fact we look right at them out the bloody kitchen window.

Problem is its hard to get a definitive position from the science, someone that will say “Deer see X, Y and Z and that’s it”. Its more like well maybe its XYZ but could be ABC and more besides. Luckily we hunt mostly private but I think we take it for granted sometimes and should still wear some kind of hiviz. Whilst we hunt as a couple or with our kids, we only ever take one rifle... its the other bugger that we don’t know is there thats our concern.

Does it matter what you are wearing. Identify your target.

Originally Posted by TeRei

Does it matter what you are wearing. Identify your target.

Does it matter? Seems that in thick bush, where for whatever reason a lot of guys (like me) don’t wear hiviz, it does matter. Because every year we have the same small but disastrous hunter-shoots-hunter nightmares. The id your target mantra isn’t working for a tiny percentage of hunters, with the same consequences over and over. Never has worked 100%, seems like it never will. So the next step is legislation like many of the US states, thou shalt wear blaze orange to a certain level of coverage. Which no one really wants to see happen, because many of us balk at it.

Ask your wife / girlfriend / mother, whoever, how would you like me as a hunter to be dressed in thick bush? I make my kids wear blue hats and blaze orange singlets matter of course, why the fuck don’t I wear it myself???

Anyway, as pointed out above, the Taupo team pulled off an amazing rescue today and that’s worth recognising big time.

It's the other fecker that needs to identify their target that I worry about. I usually wear blaze orange on public land, and when I come on places like this I see clowns making excuses like 'in certain light blaze looks like deer', well it aint a bloody deer so that's a dickhead excuse. I'm sad to say I am considering switching to blue, I don't care if a deer can see it, I'd rather miss the odd chance of a deer than be shot by some wanker.

I read somewhere that in 1 state in USA, something like 62% of hunters shot were wearing blaze. Goes to show that no matter how much we try and educate folk, it will never work 100%.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

What I want to know about both these incidents recently is what were the guys wearing? I guess this will come out in the inquest for the poor bugger in the Kaimais. Hope like hell the bloke today pulls through.

I read again recently the research regarding deer sight, the colour spectrums they see, UV reflection etc. Debated again with the wife tonight about her reservations about hunting public land, especially bush. She’s not happy about going into public land anymore - flatly refuses the Kaimais despite the fact we look right at them out the bloody kitchen window.

Problem is its hard to get a definitive position from the science, someone that will say “Deer see X, Y and Z and that’s it”. Its more like well maybe its XYZ but could be ABC and more besides. Luckily we hunt mostly private but I think we take it for granted sometimes and should still wear some kind of hiviz. Whilst we hunt as a couple or with our kids, we only ever take one rifle... its the other bugger that we don’t know is there thats our concern.

Me and my brother in law have started hunting with one rifle , less load to carry no temptation to shoot more than one animal no need to split up so low chance of shooting each other, after this case we going to make it the number one rule, one gun per party,

Who gives a f**k what the deer see? It's what hunters see that's the problem Flyblown.

Originally Posted by Allizdog

Who gives a f**k what the deer see? It's what hunters see that's the problem Flyblown.

A great many hunters give a fuck what the deer see Allizdog, that’s why so many of us choose not to wear hiviz. Rightly, or wrongly!

Anyway, I didn't really wanna start a debate, was more responding to the OP question "makes you wonder".

It does make me wonder. Am I doing the right thing? Am I teaching my kids right? Am I right to challenge my missus about her reticence to go into the bush on public land (she's ex-Army, tough as, but very aware of the fuckwittery that we are surrounded by in this world.) Sometimes too aware maybe.

Firstly, can anyone tell me how the hunter from Tauranga is? Secondly, I went hunting in the same area just two days after this incident without knowing this happened, although means nothing, and can tell everyone that the area is reasonably open where most shots would be at least 25-45 mtrs. I never wear high vis and neither does my hunting partner. I guess I have been hunting too long and too careful? The question I have to all is... Did these shootings happen 30 years ago? I don't remember any, although not saying they didn't, and obviously is it stag fever or just bloody idiots in the bush who cannot tell the difference between an animal with 4 legs and that of one that walks on 2 legs and in this case twice the height? Sorry to the family of the person who was shot and shame on the idiots who shoot before investigating what they are shooting at. Note to all hunters....YOU OWN IT WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER......you can't say sorry