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"Mi Land Mi Way"
At last someone that can actually read the legislation
"However, Senior Sergeant Kyle Davie, who is in charge of monitoring lockdown in Taranaki, said the legislation allowed it and therefore officers were letting whitebaiters and surf casters carry on, if they were in their neighbourhood. .. He said police originally thought the activity was “black and white” a big “no" to start with, but officers had since received word from the commissioner that gave them instruction. .. “There was confusion for us as well. The Covid-19 website says one thing, but the legislation says another thing. ..“We’re just being practical because of the ambiguity behind it.”
The understanding now is whitebaiting in itself is allowed, the issue is people travelling to do it, Davie said.
“If you’re in your neighbourhood then yep, if you're travelling to it then no.”
However, those who are allowed to whitebait and fish must stick to their bubbles, abide to social distancing requirements, be fishing for personal use, not sale, and not do anything that could put them in any risk of injury and need help from emergency services.""
Just get into it, go local, go by yourself, day trip only,no vehicles for the hunt,dont put yourself in a bad spot.enjoy.
Have just popped on and skim read the last 8 pages on this topic. None of us should be surprised that gaps have been missed by legislators and then found by those looking for them. That is human nature on both counts. To be frank I haven't even bothered looking at the fine detail about what I cant do hunting and fishing wise this time, because I already know deep down what the right thing to do is. So here is what I do know for me:
1. The delta variant is very different to last year and unless I/ we do my/ our bit now we will end up like Aussy. Like it or not the simple truth is that the cost of it running rampant in our community still vastly exceeds the cost of beating it now. And my heart goes out to all of us hurting financially and in many other ways right now. Hang in there. Our health system simply cant cope with a large scale outbreak and many people will suffer/ die if it does.
2. I love my hunting but my family is my priority. Making sure they are OK and spending/ enjoying time with them now is way more important than a hunt or two missed over a couple or three weeks (or whatever). So saying that I cant wait to get out for a hunt hopefully soon when we can.
3. There will always be people flogging the rules in so many ways. I have decided that I should stop worrying about what others are getting away with and simply do what I have decided for me is the right thing. My parents are aging and really vulnerable and I know how I would feel if this goes rampant and they get sick and cant get care because the system is overwhelmed. I am doing what I am doing for my parents and all those people dear to others who also wouldn't survive it.
4. I put meat from previous hunts aside in the freezer as a safeguard. I feel deeply for those people who genuinely haven't got enough food and no way to get more, for whatever reason.
Kia kaha team and see you in the hills when this is over.
Utter BS, so you can go to a beach and walk over the rock pools but not throw a line in...Quote:
Originally Posted by quentin
Sick of being treated like a 3 yo
Yea so technically I could take my rod to the beach and cast parallel to the water and practice. As soon as I turn 90 degrees and throw the line into the water in breaking the rules. I can't even partake in fly fishing the most dangerous sport ever and regarded as the past time of old farts, yet I can go ride my mountain bike on tracks and do whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Yep :D I don't think anyone would consider the rules to be absolutely watertight or 100% logical. :D Hopefully nearly done south of Auckland ay. Fingers crossed and sympathy to all north of the Bombays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remmodel7
All sorted now. Was the previous attempt a cockup, or testing the waters with race-based laws?
https://covid19.govt.nz/activities/s...-alert-level-4
Really ? NOT AT ALL SORTED..Level 4 at your link states;"............ For example, do not go swimming, surfing, boating, hunting or tramping.."Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
BUT makes no mention of exemption for Maori because they know that it would cause them grief to mention it, so they remain silent.. HOWEVER ACT have noted the exemptions for "Customary rights for fishing and food gathering" for Maori as supported by the Potty Police minister........
follow this link https://tinyurl.com/yp86de7
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper
I was referring to the anomaly of guidance related to fishing for Maori vs non-Maori that was not in keeping with the legislation. That is now sorted.
dont know about you guys but its customary for me to eat, lol
@MB I am not aware of that being either sorted or clarified.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Can you please provide a link?.
and you're right..........., in both meanings of the word, "right"Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin358
I did :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper
https://covid19.govt.nz/activities/s...-alert-level-4
https://i.ibb.co/BzSLZ08/Screen-Shot...t-09-55-56.png
Neither of those links have any relevance nor effect on this matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
Maori have , as a result of a Section 70 order under the Health Act 1956, specifically Section 16f, exemption for "Limited customary purposes."
That potty Police Minister has been asked by an Act MP to define these Limited customary purposes", but was not able to so as she can't and hasn't, I still await your evidence blocking Maori from undertaking food gathering as part of their "Limited customary purposes."
Section 16e Limited recreation purposes puts recreation activities in exactly the same standing as 16f Limited customary purposes. The wording in sections 16e) and sections f) is identical, so what is the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper
what the new "changes/clarification" has done is in effect REMOVE the need for a brown bum...for want of a better term.
It's just been confirmed we can all go fishing now even in level 4.
I predict the wharfs are going to be chocca block shortly
Amusingly it was news to Jacinda.
You could read between the lines....oh faaark Clark will not be home again....bugger what will we do next???
I'll just leave this here. Applicable in a whole heap of applications.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching- even when doing the wrong thing is legal.”
― Aldo Leopold
It,s a cover up , so now that its been highlighted in the media & Act are cracking the whip the Govt have reworded there stance to save face however until the wording changes in the legislation to reflect this its nothing more than lip service .
I just shot a rabbit from the back porch, it turned out to just be on the neighbours side of the fence. Do I need to go and see my other neighbour one of the local cops and turn myself in since we are still in L4?
I would think you will be fine, as long as you had permission from your neighbour to be shooting his rabbit in the first place...Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Jack
I didn't ask and he is my boss. I doubt he will find it as its farmed by his father and is currently empty of stock. The hawks will clean it up by tomorrow night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
So for those dropping down to Level 3 this weekend, who's going out for a hunt?
me ...broadheads are sharpened , location confirmed , weather looking pretty good , the question will be how many others will be at the carpark :)
This is the most sensible bit of info I have seen posted regarding the actual regulations relating to the various Covid alert levels and what you can and can't do it really is worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Bvw7u3aIG3g
That is a very interesting video @zeropak it confirmed a few things I was thinking about. Hopefully someone with deep pockets can test it in court.