I am looking at buying a jacket and pants. I have been told stoney creek is a good branf by an experienced hunter. He also said deer can see blue. Any suggestions?
I am looking at buying a jacket and pants. I have been told stoney creek is a good branf by an experienced hunter. He also said deer can see blue. Any suggestions?
Id place very little emphasis on colour, deer will be more worried about movement than an odd color. The blue/blaze thing is more for other humans to see you.
If it keeps you warm and dry and functions for what you want then the name tag does not mean much. The Stoney Creek stuff should be fine.
My mate hunts in an Airtex shirt and rugby shorts much to my dismay, and he's twice the hunter than Ill ever be.
Crap advice right there on placing very little emphasis on colour. Of cause you could wear anything and still get close to a deer etc but colour is important as some colours stand out way more to a deer than others, more so to the contrast of the things around you hence a deer will see the movement of you far better when it sees something that sticks out differently . A deer will pick up your face and hands at times because of the contrast and see the movement easier and hence spook it where if you had them covered you prob get away with it. Blue is a shocking colour as deer can see it for miles and will pick up movement of you more easierly. Great for others to see thou but in the end people tend to get shot in the bush wearing colours that arent clearly a deer colour anyway so no matter what colour you wear its not always going to save you. You still get deer wearing anything, esp if they didnt see you anyway when you appear over the ridge etc but i bet your blue blaze on it that wearing blue will increase your chances of a deer seeing you and wandering off without you even knowing that it had seen you. Hence why some people think wearing blue is ok, i got a deer after 4 hours stalking etc when it reality could be quite likely you could of got two before that if you were wearing something better. If you that safety minded its pointless wearing blue unless your back pack and hat, pants etc are colours as well that a human cant mistake for a deer. Dress as a smurf and you be good. In the end deer arent green, so i just wear the standard green or camo gear as thats not a deer colour is it.
This year and most previous I have shot up to half a dozen deer a month, sometimes more, none have given two shits about what I'm wearing, most of them have been stalked in open country, or on clearings, and most while wearing my favourite work wear...blue levi or RMW jeans.
It does not matter what you wear to hunt in, deer have relatively poor eyesight. They respond to movement or shapes that do not blend into the surrounding environment, hence why you use bushes or rocks etc to break your silhouette and never skyline yourself in a hunting situation. The amount of deer stalked and shot while the hunter wears a blue or red checked swannie would top the thousands. A lot of my mates are hunters but also farmers, they often wear shorts and a check shirt hunting and most shoot dozens of deer, pigs, tahr, chamois each year.
If you're going to invest in gear, invest in quality. Gear takes a hammering in the scrub, mediocre garments fall to bits quickly. Why spend half the money on a cheaper similar product, only to have to replace that garment 3 times in the life of a higher quality more expensive item. Sure some companies will replace their garments if they fall to bits, but that sh*t pisses me off. Its time and effort wasted, and is unnecessary.
For me when spending a full day out hunting I'll generally wear normal long johns under huntech or swazi shorts. A thermal tee as a base layer, with a Sitka, Swazi or Huntech fleece top. I virtually live in my Swazi Severn, wear it most days at work in the office, truck, on the farm, in the scrub, etc. It is still in great condition after 6 years! Huge variety of jackets out there, I personally own Swazi gear because it is not THAT much more expensive than other hunting gear, lasts well, and its made here in NZ. For evening/morning hunts I'll throw on a pair of jeans or moleskins, any old jersey and go for a walk. Drybum fleece pants are pretty good for cold morning hunts too.
I do recommend a blaze item if you're hunting popular country, a vest is sufficient, or even a hat, although this hasn't seemed to stop the idiots failing to identify their targets and shooting their mates in the past. If I was to highly recommend one thing, that would be to invest in DECENT socks for hunting in, especially of you plan on doing plenty of walking. You won't go anywhere if your feet are buggered on a hunting trip. Bridgedales are a great investment.
Last edited by JoshC; 19-12-2013 at 12:42 PM.
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Hi Remington700.270,
It all really depends on what you are after.
Do you want pants that are waterproof, windproof, dry seat, warm like fleece, light wearing to wear in summer, tough to protect your legs, dry quickly etc etc. All of these factors will be used to decide what pants you end up with, or in most cases what 3 pairs you end up with.
I will generally wear one of the following:
Shorts. Very old pair of running shorts made from nylon?? dry super quick and light and cool to wear.
Shorts with thermals if hunting in cool weather.
Stoney creek micro tough if cool weather, sandflies about or needing to protect my beautiful legs from scrub.
Fleece, these are a dime a dozen and I'm not fussed on brand.
Over trousers, if I want to keep dry but these seldom get worn hunting. Usually more when on quad bike or at camp etc.
As for jackets there are the big hunting brands about like Swazi, Hunters Element, Stoney Creek, Ridgeline etc etc all offering their versions of waterproof breathable coats. Bear in mind that most of the manufactures are trying to make a coat to be quiet as well so will have a soft brushed finish. These can "hold" a lot of water and take forever to dry. All coats have their benefits and with owning 3 of the above brands my go to jacket is usually my Swazi Tahr Anorak.
One that I would seriously consider though is going to the likes of a Macpac Jacket. These are lighter, less bulky, don't "hold" water and dry a lot quicker. They are not a traditional style hunting coat fit or design but would be well worth a look.
As for your can deer see blue question, I don't know?
Come see me at hunting and fishing danevirke today just to say hello .....and ill let you try every jacket and pants we have regaurless weather you buy one or not its good to have people come in just to shoot shit!.because theres always something else I should be doing than being stuck in a shop on a weeknd.
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Love my hunters element xtr jacket and will get the pants as well its a great light jacket. Ridgeline is shit. The stiching comes undone and it loses its water proofness. Just got the xtr so dont know how it will wear.
Thank you, I cant come in today because im still in Te Puke. Will be over one day though![]()
i feel for the price of stoney creek the quality is average. ridgeline is the same possibly worse. If you want a hunting 'brand' jacket then the swazi would be the only choice. otherwise look at macpac etc.
i only wear shorts for hunting when its cold then just put long johns underneath. i have some of those microtough trousers that get raved about but frankly i think their shit, horrible to wear if you are brushing through wet foliage and i find they bind around my knees when climbing. the adjustable waist belt/belt is crap you would be better off wearing a proper leather ( or other) belt. definetly not worth the 150$ or so. stoney creek definetly have a long way to go in terms of the way a piece of clothing actually fits when being used.
have bought some sitka gear recently and thats the only gear i will be buying from now on . you dont need hunting brand gear to do the job, its more important to be comfortable warm and safe than really worried about spooking a deer because you should have had tussock camo on instead of bush camo
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