Thread: Hunting in NZ, is it too easy?

Originally Posted by ebf

@kiwiaviator, the only "foreigners" you'll be targeting with that ballot would be aucklanders

in principle, I have no problem with tourists paying a reasonable extra levy for things such as licenses... 10-15% seems fair. if something is free, then obviously 15% of zero is zero.

For the ballots, maybe say something like only 25% of spots available for non-residents. I think you still want to attract overseas visitors as a marketing exercise. make the ballot system ABSOLUTELY transparent, the problem (based on another thread on here) seems to be more of a poorly run ballot system with some guys getting the same block year after year type of thing. ensure that people can only enter once, have a stand-down period for winners etc.

Why the hell should somebody have 25% claim on our hunting rights and not be a resident?
Its easy to control same as South Africa and other countries your need proof of payment and letter of invite from professional hunting guide to be able to bring your gun and ammo in.
Attract overseas hunters to our public land that in some areas we are already limited and controlled for access to bring in money.
Selling ourselves short I think.
As for a ballot that was suggested by somebody for high traffic areas like Clements Road .
It didn't always have such large number of people and now you want to limit the people who have been hunting there for years because the other half of you cant think outside the square and go somewhere else .
Newsflash there are so many other good places in central Nth Island to camp and hunt that are not plastered all over the local hunting mags and forums you just have to have a look a little bit further away than 30 mins from MacDonald's.

I have never hunted there because of the high crowd factor.

Originally Posted by Zamkiwi

Why the hell should somebody have 25% claim on our hunting rights and not be a resident?.

Marketing opportunity for NZ tourism, bring in international hunting shows and visitors to showcase NZ as a destination. Much as folks on here seem to hate tourists, the do bring in a fair chunk of money into the economy. If the dairy industry has a wobble (seen the farm gate prices recently ?), what do you think the next big earner for NZ is ?

It's free you us, why should it not be free for someone else ? Or maybe you want to go down the slippery slope of tourists having to pay.... wonder how long it takes for some rocket scientist bureaucrat to realize that charging locals is actually an easier option for a quick buck. Bet that would go down as well amongst most locals as having to pay hut fees

Originally Posted by Zamkiwi

Its easy to control same as South Africa and other countries your need proof of payment and letter of invite from professional hunting guide to be able to bring your gun and ammo in.

Maybe because this is a completely different situation ?

In South Africa locals to not hunt for free (most guys I know can barely afford to go hunt once or twice a year). Mammals are not considered introduced pests. Other than National Parks (where international level trophy fees apply - millionaire Americans) hunting is done on commercial game farms. You pay for access, you pay per animal, you pay for guides...

I think trying to compare NZ to Overseas is very difficult.
For example my wife and I visited Denmark last year.
Their hunting for deer from what I could gather was very much like our bird shooting a season of about 3 months.
Didnt appear to be too many restrictions on visitors.
The majority of the country is very developed.
So it wouldn't work here.
For some of us their scenario would be ok.
But be very careful of getting what you wish for most legislation/rules in society are the shotgun approach and apply to all.