Thread: Hunting in NZ, is it too easy?

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I have been led to believe that it was Queen Victoria who gave us the queens chain so that we would all have fair and reasonable access to our waterways. I believe that our fore fathers, (and mothers) introduced game animals to public lands so we would all have fair and reasonable access to hunting. As a born and bred kiwi, I and all my family enjoy, and regard as our birth rite, free, fair and reasonable access to our waterways and public lands to fish and hunt. We pay reasonable licence fees to take some fish and birds. This fee is used to manage the resource. In theory part of our taxes are used to maintain huts roads etc on public (our) land. I suppose in theory our taxes pay for the management or mismanagement of our game animals. I am opposed to any situation whereby our free and reasonable right to access our waterways and public lands, and hunt our game animals and fish and birds is restricted. I am opposed to any management strategy that restricts me having reasonable success when hunting/fishing. In conjunction with reasonable conservation strategies. So, I am opposed to non kiwi's having the privilege of free unrestricted access to my birth rite. They should pay. There could be a case for me being able to invite my friends to hunt with me as my guest. This is why I am comfortable with the game parks. (It's not hunting anyway). So let the foreigners do it and its a good lucrative industry for NZ. But breed your own animals. Keep your thieving hands of ours.

Originally Posted by highcountry

Remember to have a coffee and read the original post twice.
I have been led to believe that it was Queen Victoria who gave us the queens chain so that we would all have fair and reasonable access to our waterways. I believe that our fore fathers, (and mothers) introduced game animals to public lands so we would all have fair and reasonable access to hunting. As a born and bred kiwi, I and all my family enjoy, and regard as our birth rite, free, fair and reasonable access to our waterways and public lands to fish and hunt. We pay reasonable licence fees to take some fish and birds. This fee is used to manage the resource. In theory part of our taxes are used to maintain huts roads etc on public (our) land. I suppose in theory our taxes pay for the management or mismanagement of our game animals. I am opposed to any situation whereby our free and reasonable right to access our waterways and public lands, and hunt our game animals and fish and birds is restricted. I am opposed to any management strategy that restricts me having reasonable success when hunting/fishing. In conjunction with reasonable conservation strategies. So, I am opposed to non kiwi's having the privilege of free unrestricted access to my birth rite. They should pay. There could be a case for me being able to invite my friends to hunt with me as my guest. This is why I am comfortable with the game parks. (It's not hunting anyway). So let the foreigners do it and its a good lucrative industry for NZ. But breed your own animals. Keep your thieving hands of ours.

+1 Nail...on...the...fukin...head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnelZB6x2Y

Is it common for Kiwis to kill Red Stag with Sika antlers and leave the carcass behind?

No one has answered the question as to what "should" a foreign hunter do with the carcass if it can only be handled for private consumption? Is there a network of needy folks looking for venison?

Scotty

Originally Posted by summitdogracing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnelZB6x2Y

Is it common for Kiwis to kill Red Stag with Sika antlers and leave the carcass behind?

No one has answered the question as to what "should" a foreign hunter do with the carcass if it can only be handled for private consumption? Is there a network of needy folks looking for venison?

Scotty

Eat as much as you can/want try and give it away.
Or our do as our govt does and leave it to rot, preferably poisoned and in a waterway.

Originally Posted by summitdogracing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnelZB6x2Y

Is it common for Kiwis to kill Red Stag with Sika antlers and leave the carcass behind?

No one has answered the question as to what "should" a foreign hunter do with the carcass if it can only be handled for private consumption? Is there a network of needy folks looking for venison?

Scotty

In all reality the onus is on you, the hunter. You're the one pulling the trigger. Kiwi, Yank or any other nationality it makes no difference.
If you want to kill an animal, it's your responsibility to deal with the rest.
FYI I know of no shelter or other NGO type organisation in NZ looking for venison or other wild game but it's not a bad idea. Most of us will recover what we can for own own families and sometimes a bit of barter. You can only hump so much out on your back, which is the kiwi way (old school way anyway).
FYI our deer are classified as pest but are not targeted in poison operations (no matter what the tinfoil hat brigade think). Collateral (and convenient) damage is probably a better description. In a country with no game management shit happens and honestly another carcass or two left on the hill is not going to destroy our herd. Dead is dead regardless of what consumes the carcass.
Easiest way to deal with your particular problem is give the forum a heads up where and when you're hunting. I would bet that there will both be a member or three in the area and that at least one of them will be keen for a hunt or at least give you a good heads start. If you look after the meat I will also be sure your host will be able to distribute it for you and might even get you a beer or two for your trouble.
This is all assuming you can outfox one of our kiwi super deer!

Originally Posted by summitdogracing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnelZB6x2Y

Is it common for Kiwis to kill Red Stag with Sika antlers and leave the carcass behind?

No one has answered the question as to what "should" a foreign hunter do with the carcass if it can only be handled for private consumption? Is there a network of needy folks looking for venison?

Scotty

are you coming over by yourself? and are you planning on hunting by yourself? I'm assuming you will be getting either dropped in somewhere by vehicle or chopper, give the meat to them after you have eaten what you can.