Hey guys, what packs have you guys got for when you do 3-4 day walk in trips? Had a look and there's a lot out there so just wondering what people recommend.
Cheers Ben
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Hey guys, what packs have you guys got for when you do 3-4 day walk in trips? Had a look and there's a lot out there so just wondering what people recommend.
Cheers Ben
One planet traverse 38l, made in aus. Pretty tight for 3-4 days but can be done so long as you don't carry too much crap. And when I shoot something there's plenty of straps to carry clothes etc on the outside to make room for the meat. Not too heavy at 1400grams
Macpac canyon. Big but heavy. Trying to go lighter...
I just picked up a exped lightning 60l. Havnt had it out in the hills yet but have loaded it up for some hill sprints a few times, comfy and super light. I probably wouldnt want to full on scrub bash in it though the material is reasonably thin
I'm gettin one of those too Nick! Current pack is 2.7kg empty, can go take a jump.
I have a macpac 60l and its mint very strong and holds a good load well
Yeah mate the one I replaced was 3.2 empty, kicker is that the exped is comfier too. Just gotta DIY a rifle carrying system now. Dont think you will be disapointedQuote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
Craigc look at the expeds in bivouac. 1.1 kg .........
So I'm guessing 60L is plenty of room?
It is if you have 40 ltrs of gear.
All depends how much crap you want to take :)
Yeah man 60l is about as much as I want to take. Can strap sleeping mats ect on the outside to if you need the extra space.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellowski
Although if you have a big bulky synthetic sleeping bag, a 70+l might be the go
Depends if you are walking in to a hut to hunt from as a base, or hunting with you pack on an sleeping wherever you end up
There is no point in going at the lite weight setup half arsed.
Spend $200 to save 1kg on a 60l pack for eg, and you have just added 2kg of gear with the extra room over a smaller heavier 50l
3kg for Shelter, Sleepingbag, sleeping mat, cooker, gas... thats where you'll gain the most IMO. Its not that hard or expensive.
You dont need 5 changes of clothes.
I did 3 weeks in the Arctic in Alaska of which 2 were rain and snow on 17kg of gear + tent, gas and food.. comfortably.. I think I can drop some more gear out now also.
dLong gone are the days of 33kg pack with a rifle on 1 side and shotgun on the other and someone helping me into it. Mint you.. i dont carry 250s of shotgun ammo and 2 dozen beers now either LOL
A small pack MAKES you carry less gear
Geezus Spanners. I cant even count to 33 on a Friday night.
Is a good point, But if you dont own a pack and there is a 1kg pack that will do the same job as a 3kg pack, might as well go with the lighter packQuote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
Have you carried full weight in that exped? +35kg?
If the harness is good then they look perfect.
Although my cascade is heavy, the harness is brilliant for hauling out full loads.
I have a 60L tatonka only used once still pretty much new bit big for what I want. cost me I think $350 if any one interested $200
Check the specs on some of those light weight Exped packs. They are designed for lightweight tramping and can only hold 15 kg. Fine for a few days gear but a little different once you have some meat to carry out.
Completely disagree re weight considderationQuote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
Its about strength and load baring when considdering packs i believe. Weight shouldnt be a gauge - unless you say can do everything the same.......
Ive tried a bunch of flimsy ligjt packs and reverted to smaller tough packs (only marginally heavier) and they have always come up trumps
Best i have opted for is the macpak ascent 70L narrow and sit high on your hips and i think the ass is woven kevlar so doesnt wear.
5 years down now and still no issue - alot of straps but allpws you to compressit easily for dau pack use also - one easy wearing tough mother
I have an 80l north face pack in v good condition if anyone wants it, $100
25+kg rating on the lightning 60, which is the standard load rating for a 60L odd hiking pack
Depends what you want out of it, theres gunna be a trade off in durability in order to go light, but it isnt as big as you might think. modern materials have closed this gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogers.270
Agreed about load bearing, which is why I chose the exped as it is rated very well there. Obviously you dont want to throw 25 kg of gear into a frameless UL pack. It carries weight better than the one it replaced which was 3 + KG.
Eventually I will drop some cash on a modular pack system like a stone glacier, so I can have my cakae and eat it too.
Macpac Torre. 25 years going strong. Plenty of trips made chokka with gear and meat and only ever had to replace one strap. Will these super light packs still be in good condition after 2 decades of punishment???
Mate im an imported gear whoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
Still not sold on UL or L packs - if you ethically kill/butcher a red/fallow or haul a full tahr cape and head in a full kit bag and then tell me the UL gear is as tough, comfy, hard wearing and reliable id have to question your sanity
Ok for a day or two hunt but this dudes talking a 3-4 day hunt ie full expedition.
General UL or L gear, thats great love that but like boots i personally believe under investment for strength in a back is stupid - blow a strap out at 1000 with $5k plus worth of gear in it on dusk and youll see the light
Cant go wrong with a One Planet, I use a One Planet McMillan 80l, would have to be the most comfortable will made pack I have had, runs rings around the macpacs I have had, and plenty of room for a big load out!Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
Im keen to take a look mate.... im in the same town evenQuote:
Originally Posted by Freezer
Guess time will tell, Gimp has used ones at alpine chasing tahr I believe, so he is probably the best person to attest as to the durability.Quote:
Originally Posted by rogers.270
"Have you carried full weight in that exped? +35kg? " =nope, but i did carry 7kg all up on my back for two days(biv-mat-sleep bag-cooker-food-emergency gear-clothes), and boy was it an eye opener in comparison to carrying at least 14kg every other trip.
secondly i never intend loading with 35 kg, mostly because i cant. Reason i bought the Exped pack is, the way my knees are i can see i have limited hunting life left. if i can make it easier to be out there, and a consequence means i need to think harder about loads, then so be it. For me its a choice between being able to go or not- more so as time goes on.
I seem to remember a few of the more experienced hunters on the forums stating "the basic on your back gear is same- you just add more food and wipe for extended trips"
All good antsman, I guess your post sums this all up well. That there are many different ways people use their gear and a South Island tops hunter will always have a different need to a north island bush hunter. That people that hunt close to the car/hut/chopper will have a different need than those that walk in and out.
Our favourite roar area is 7-9 hours walk in and out. We also want to bring out as much meat as possible so it means dragging heavy packs out. 9 hours with a 30+kilo pack with a poor performing harness will make you wish that you put all emphasis on how a pack carries its load.
geezus man, 7-9 hours, thats far too far from a pie shop for me!
Hi guys
Interesting discussion
I use a Macpac Ravine. 65l and its bullet proof, at least so far. Decent harness and pretty simple with not too much stuff hanging off it.
Good for an overnighter or up to a week, I do like that with a load on its as comfy as lugging 30kg can be. Biggest load was 2 deer back wheels and back steaks plus gear for a couple of days.
Being from down south I guess my attitude to taking extra stuff to cope with weather and having a great shelter (minaret) and bag might be different from some, been on a couple of trips when we had unforcast snow so always pac a few extra bits of clothing.
My 2 cents
Cheers
Dino
I have a Alps Outdoorz Commander X (not Z)
Its big but very comfortable
The detachable frame allows you to keep all your tools (Knife,GPS ect) all the time.
Down side is that their expensive to get sent to NZ
been looking into meat carrying packs recently after having to haul out 3 animals from a fairly close but very steep area. I can see now that also having 2-3 days gear plus meat will be a problem with my current set up, a bit of weight and some rough terrain really shows up the flaws.
The US guys have some pretty sweet (but a bit pricey) stuff for pack-outs and gear. Looks like the best design have the pack bag detachable from the frame so the heavy meat load can be held close and secure to the frame, then the bag bit straps over holding everything tight. vids have the guys hauling 70+kgs with no failures.... apart from thier legs!
nice all in one designs:
Hunting Packs | Mystery Ranch Backpacks
Packs | Product Categories | Exo Mountain Gear
Then the super customisable and on the "if I ever win Lotto" list VIDEOS - Kifaru International
pretty cool to see some differnt takes on pack design/load carry systems
150+ pounds no problem...
https://vimeo.com/84039246
I'm also looking for a pack, those macpac ascents say they are only rated for 15kg loads but good to hear they go good with a big loadQuote:
Originally Posted by rogers.270
Has anyone considered or tried any of the Aarn packs?http://www.aarnpacks.com/#!page-4/cfvg
It's interesting that nobody seems to use the hunting brand packs stoney creek, ridge line etc. think I'll end up going with something from macpac in the 70L range. Extra room for all that meat to carry out
I stretched labour weekend out to 5 days and took everything away in my new Eberlestock J34 - loved it. Packed 28kg into it for the walk in and then used it as a daypack each day after leaving all of the non-essentials in the hut. It starts at about 35L and can expand to just north of 130L with an add-on.
It's a bit heavier in terms of a daypack - as it has all the support built in to handle the heavier loads, but that also means it's bloody comfortable to haul around all day. Plenty of room to carry a full load of meat out if you need it too. Rifle sits nicely in the scabbard and frees both hands up.
Definitely recommend