Thread: Hunting related deaths

Some intersting facts here in this article. Definately worth taking the time to read

Hunting Accidents

Pretty sobering stuff. Im going to stick to identifying the sex and age

Originally Posted by Gibo

Pretty sobering stuff. Im going to stick to identifying the sex and age

That's about the same criteria as when looking for a root

Originally Posted by Gibo

Pretty sobering stuff. Im going to stick to identifying the sex and age

And what age and what sex are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Spook

That's about the same criteria as when looking for a root

But add a good Rack !

Originally Posted by Spook

That's about the same criteria as when looking for a root

Too right!

Originally Posted by Nathan F

Some intersting facts here in this article. Definately worth taking the time to read

Hunting Accidents

I admit I only read the first case in that article...what one says to save one's arse after the fact is probably different to what actually happened...he took a shot at a deer's rump at 20 metres and shot his target in the head...what a crock of shit...he seen something move and blasted it...I challenge anyone to measure off 20 metres in any bush situation and have a good look at it, you will see every identifiable object in that distance...and if you cant then don't even shoulder your rifle unless you live by the old "if there is lead in the air, there is hope".

Originally Posted by Nathan F

Some intersting facts here in this article. Definately worth taking the time to read

Hunting Accidents

The inspector and alot more people should take the time to read some material such as I Pavlov's "Battle for the mind" and research done into how the bain makes /lets you see what you want to see .. One of the problems of making a positive identification is the longer you are out looking the more likley you are to make a wrong identification .. In coaching competitors , use is made of auto suggestion and some of the methods used such as visualisation would go some way to explain how some people could get it so bably wrong and just harping on about properly identifying the target will just never get the job done .. It needs some real investigation into ways to fiiix the problem .. Ajob for NZDA perhaps

Originally Posted by lefty1

The inspector and alot more people should take the time to read some material such as I Pavlov's "Battle for the mind" and research done into how the bain makes /lets you see what you want to see .. One of the problems of making a positive identification is the longer you are out looking the more likley you are to make a wrong identification .. In coaching competitors , use is made of auto suggestion and some of the methods used such as visualisation would go some way to explain how some people could get it so bably wrong and just harping on about properly identifying the target will just never get the job done .. It needs some real investigation into ways to fiiix the problem .. Ajob for NZDA perhaps

BULLSHIT. The hunters that shoot blokes/women are suffering from Fuckwit Hero Syndrome.The sooner these Fools get some time in Jail the better.

These incidents are tragic and as much as I understand the "buck fever" and the "mind makes the eyes see what is not there" arguments, I believe that all of these incidents are entirely preventable and should not ever occur.

Originally Posted by H&K MAN

BULLSHIT. The hunters that shoot blokes/women are suffering from Fuckwit Hero Syndrome.The sooner these Fools get some time in Jail the better.

Doesn't prevent it happening though does it, just a reaction to the action. May provide a small amount of deterrent but won't stop it happening.

Prevention is more important, but I agree being whipped with a wet towel is insufficient as punishment. Lock Em up

Originally Posted by lefty1

The inspector and alot more people should take the time to read some material such as I Pavlov's "Battle for the mind" and research done into how the bain makes /lets you see what you want to see .. One of the problems of making a positive identification is the longer you are out looking the more likley you are to make a wrong identification .. In coaching competitors , use is made of auto suggestion and some of the methods used such as visualisation would go some way to explain how some people could get it so bably wrong and just harping on about properly identifying the target will just never get the job done .. It needs some real investigation into ways to fiiix the problem .. Ajob for NZDA perhaps

Bugger off!

The longer I am in the bush at any time, the more I relax and tune in to the environment, and the slower I act, simple. Wrong identification my arse!, more like no identification.

My "auto suggestion" is: I will NOT! shoot at sound, I will NOT! shoot at a colour, I will NOT! shoot at movement- I WILL!, identify WHERE!, I am going to put the round.
More "auto suggestion" I use: I an NOT!, desperate to shoot something, I WILL! take my time over a shot, passing it up if I cannot get the clean kill shot I want.

PREDETERMINED MINDSET AND SELF CONTROL WILL EQUAL NO ACCIDENTAL DEATHS.

The deaths occurring are a combination of desperation to kill something/anything, negligence and carelessness.

Originally Posted by lefty1

The inspector and alot more people should take the time to read some material such as I Pavlov's "Battle for the mind" and research done into how the bain makes /lets you see what you want to see .. One of the problems of making a positive identification is the longer you are out looking the more likley you are to make a wrong identification .. In coaching competitors , use is made of auto suggestion and some of the methods used such as visualisation would go some way to explain how some people could get it so bably wrong and just harping on about properly identifying the target will just never get the job done .. It needs some real investigation into ways to fiiix the problem .. Ajob for NZDA perhaps

The hierarchy of that outfit have been known to be the worst offenders

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Bugger off!

The longer I am in the bush at any time, the more I relax and tune in to the environment, and the slower I act, simple. Wrong identification my arse!, more like no identification.

My "auto suggestion" is: I will NOT! shoot at sound, I will NOT! shoot at a colour, I will NOT! shoot at movement- I WILL!, identify WHERE!, I am going to put the round.
More "auto suggestion" I use: I an NOT!, desperate to shoot something, I WILL! take my time over a shot, passing it up if I cannot get the clean kill shot I want.

PREDETERMINED MINDSET AND SELF CONTROL WILL EQUAL NO ACCIDENTAL DEATHS.

The deaths occurring are a combination of desperation to kill something/anything, negligence and carelessness.

Spot on

Originally Posted by Nibblet

Doesn't prevent it happening though does it, just a reaction to the action. May provide a small amount of deterrent but won't stop it happening.

Prevention is more important, but I agree being whipped with a wet towel is insufficient as punishment. Lock Em up

Nibblet is close to the mark my post was in no way saying that I think that there are not a lot of usless nutters out there who do and will shoot at anything , but on the other hand just shouting the odds does nothing to help prevent others from getting shot .. I am not a grennie or a tree hugger and did alot or research into the subject in the 60's in response to a remit put before the NZDA annual confrenece concerning the wearing of blaze orange ,which was defeated .. those voting against the motion based their vote on honest opion and nothing more than their own actions and experience .. Having been a mountain safety firearms instrutor for more than a few years I can say that I have been doing my bit to help prevent hunters getting shot , but there just has to be more than passing a nother useless law or just punishing the offenders which does nothing for the dead ones or their families .. so keep saying bull shit , wankers , etc that really helps dosent it