Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Night Vision NZ Ammo Direct


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 42
Like Tree25Likes

Thread: hunting with subsponic 44 or 45 cals

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    185

    hunting with subsponic 44 or 45 cals

    Fellas anyone here hunt with subsonics in the pistol calibre rounds, 44 mag, 45 colt or 45 acp, whether in lever guns or other carbines? Interested in hearing your experiences on game with cast and jacketed bullets. How effective do you find the slow moving slugs on medium sized game, and do you find the hollow points offer an advantage.

    And subsonic, not subsponic

  2. #2
    MSL
    MSL is offline
    Member MSL's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    6,474
    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    Funny you should bring this topic up tonight. Shot this little guy tonight. 230 grains stopped her. Attachment 121692
    Is that one of them gender fluid rabbits?

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    185
    Awesome picture, can I ask what range you shot it at and also who did the conversion?

  4. #4
    Member Tommy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    W-BOP
    Posts
    6,536
    Don't forget 38special is subsonic too
    Identify your target beyond all doubt

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    2,516
    Killed hares and possums with 270g cast flat nose in 44 mag a lot,tried hollow points but they did a lot of damage to meat,definitely better penetration with the solids,the hollow points expand and slow down real quick,the solids punch through anything.always used full power loads on deer though.

  6. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    1,650
    Hare with 44mag. 200 or 300gr plated, can't remember which. Unsuprisingly, bullet didn't expand - in stead bored a .429" hole straight through in through the shoulder and out through the neck. It died.

    Those big flat meplats still transfer plenty of energy and cause a lot of damage even without expansion.

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    christchurch
    Posts
    17,992
    i hit a bunny with a 300gr 44 mag. wasnt pretty

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    kaiapoi
    Posts
    7,120
    in the good ol' days occasionally used the 357 rossi on possums. 125gr hollowpoints.
    One looked like it had been taken to with an axe

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    869
    This is interesting. I have a .44 mag and sub load but havent shot anything with it yet. Lol. I am thinking goats really close in, maybe 10-20 m. How is that likely to play out? Or 50m? Projectile is 240 gn xtp with a hollow nose lots of exposed lead. Sorry i cant offer any actual experience, OP!

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Far North
    Posts
    4,875
    Iv shot a turkey with my 44/77 ruger with 44 special bullets
    it must have missed everything vital as i had to shoot it again

    i thought it would be inline with shooting it with a 12ga but really its more inline with a 22lr

    the trick is that it has penetration and will keep going in the bigger stuff and will reach the vitals or CNS thats inside

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Far North
    Posts
    4,875
    Iv wapped plenty of stuff with my 308sub, I expected the 44 to be a big step up
    without the hydroshock effect its just a big stab wound that you wait to kill them from blood loss

  12. #12
    Member Flyblown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    Waikato
    Posts
    3,339
    The .44 Magnum farkin' flattens big pigs with @shooternz's 270gr pills. Head and neck shots. Have only used the flat nose so far and have 80 odd HPs to try next. Just learn the trajectory and keep the range short.

    In .44 Mag with a 12" barrel and DPT, subsonic isn't exactly quiet like a .308 and 16" barrel, but its a lot quieter than full speed factory ammo and easy to use in tight bush where sound reflection is normally a problem.
    Moa Hunter likes this.
    Just...say...the...word

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    869
    I’m shooting the Bergara 44 mag single shot which has a 16.5” barrel and DPT. I would always wear ear pro if I had time, even with subs, but it’s ok. Quiet enough that you can hear the hammer drop, mixed in with the report of detonation. Trouble is with these larger calibres it’s just a big hole at the end and the sound gets out whatever you do.
    llewelyn likes this.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    1,650
    @WillB, what powder are you using? I think I'm using AP70N and it's very easily hearing safe outside of the booth.

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    869
    I’m using 2205. I reckon it probably is hearing safe but I try to be as cautious as I can with hearing. It’s such a fun cartridge! Easy to load easy to shoot in a light handy rifle. But not as versatile as .308

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Taupo hunting - advice or a hunting buddy
    By StagDown in forum Game Bird Hunting
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 14-05-2018, 03:54 PM
  2. Gun for first time deer hunting/wallaby hunting
    By mehtat in forum Firearms, Optics and Accessories
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 31-03-2017, 07:29 PM
  3. 168gn in 30 cals`
    By Bavarian_Hunter in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 09-08-2013, 10:27 PM
  4. For those who need an iPhone for balistic cals the biomass recharger
    By steven in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 22-03-2013, 09:09 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!