More negative press for our sport
Illegal Hunting Causing Distress After Worsening... | Stuff.co.nz
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More negative press for our sport
Illegal Hunting Causing Distress After Worsening... | Stuff.co.nz
not sure I agree with you that it is "bad press for our sport"
illegal hunting / poaching / trespass is a crime, people who are engaged in it are not involved in a sport, they are breaking the law, and violating someone else's property rights.
there seems to be a culture where some folks in the hunting community don't see poaching as theft, I just don't get it.
I hear you EBF. Was at a hut recently and 2 hunters there hadn't shot anything in the DOC area, so they quite blatantly popped over into the nearby private station over 2 days to get animals - nearly getting caught at one point. They didn't see it as "wrong".
Different if you get lost, out of boundary but to conciously go hunt there is blatant theft.
Yep, I have been looked at as a complete alien head when someone asks so do ya do a bit 'a poaching? and I flatly say no. Sadly, I think poaching has been taught to some people as 'part of hunting'. It is not. That's like saying shagging your mate's wife is 'part of dating'. In my opinion, some people need to grow up.
" Sergeant Rob Crawford, of Motueka, said hunters were trespassing on farm, forestry and Department of Conservation land.
Mr Crawford had started an email tree which included rural landowners, forestry companies and farmers, and almost every person said they had an issue with people trespassing on their land to go hunting.
The issue was having serious ramifications on the rural community.
Trespassing and poaching led to other crimes, including damage to property and theft from logging sites and farms, Mr Crawford said.
A Murchison farmer who confronted two men from Nelson hunting on his farm said in a victim impact statement he felt "under seige" by the problem
Tutaki Valley farmer Simon Blakemore said illegal hunting at night was an ongoing problem and it was difficult for farmers and the police to catch the culprits.
Illegal hunters were looking for game. However, he was aware that cattle and sheep were also being taken. "
I really fail to see how this is NOT bad press for sport hunting. The average joe blogs who doesnt know diddly squat about hunting will think hunters are running around poaching all over the place and nicking stuff at the same time.
I poach the pines and i dont care.
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Id be editing that CD if not too late, Otherwise you may be starting a thread similar to wirehunts one in a few weeks..Quote:
Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
Just a thought ! :relief:
I didnt read that thread. I was just fishing for someone to shit themselves
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No shit there... More like we saw some shit go down through a post made here.. Reinforced its a public arena and some times notice gets taken and acted upon ...Quote:
Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
People do what people do so long as they dont cry when they get caught ... :thumbsup:
Yea well that between me and security
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What the fuck does "He recently had firewood stolen from a paddock, and someone had spent time cutting up the log to take the wood away." have to do with poaching?
And don't get me started on who is doing what illegally. Will we start with illegal closure of roads by forestry companies? Road that in fact have public easements on them and are in fact meant to be open in daylight hours. Will we go there? Cause I would fucking love to have the money to nail those cunts.
Same goes for councils selling roads to said forest companies so they in fact can ditch responsibility of them. They come under the cock suckers catagolory.
I know a guy who has lost 600 sheep (!) this year just gone. Thats theft. I have a real issue with people going onto another persons property and taking their livelihood, taking food from his children's mouth so to speak. But if CD happens to wander into the pines owned by some big Japanese forestry conglomerate and take a wild animal from it, good on him.
Now that's not on, who would take 600 head. I'd be looking for another cocky not a hunter. I don't get poaching though. A phone call and or a hot drink is all you really need to get onto pretty much any land you could want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer
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Originally Posted by Eion
Not all the time. A lady has a farm round here with deer as far as the eye could see, wouldn't let anyone hunt then then got a chopper to fix the problem
On my last visit to private proverty, I got the coffee and home made slice :) Be good to other people, they will be good to you. And you might just find you have a mate at the end of the day, not just a land contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eion
Professional rustlers, horses, teams of dogs the works. They use the bush that borders his property to drove stock overland to the nearest yards at Te Karaka, would be a couple of days work. This isn't just local boy rustling up a killer for the whanau, these are organized thieves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eion
Depends on how you define want. Toby nailed it. Pines between myself and Toby are strictly no go and theres more deer than pine cones in thereQuote:
I don't get poaching though. A phone call and or a hot drink is all you really need to get onto pretty much any land you could want.
The last cocky in that article was on to it in saying it used to be worse when , anyone could sell game . I knew of guys that poached hard out and used to make a good living from it. Choppers are still the biggest poachers , but seem to get away with it .
Safety is our biggest concern when it comes to poaching. Especially in our forestry blocks.
What pisses me off about people jumping fences into forestry blocks is the fact that not all of them are corporate owned. A lot are private blocks owned by Joe Blogs.
Some people's attitudes simply suck. We are clamping down on poaching on a much larger scale these days. The roar can be an exciting time for us for reasons other than hunting.
About time the Police got onto this in the Nelson area. Speaking from experience, most of the problem comes from vehicle owners with timber or Alloy things on the back.:ORLY:
It would be a different story if I drive into town and park the Hilux on someone’s front lawn and start walking around with a firearm aye!
How long would it take for the "boys in black" to turn-up?
Im not growing pot or hurting anyone. I just go hunting to put meat in the freezer. These pines are corporate owned and they can catch me if they can. I dont see the issue. I know that plenty will be just appauld at my behaviour, but it is what it is.
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For all it costs to get a hunting permit for Golden Downs Forests, is bugger all compared to what most of us have tied up in equipment. Hell I get a permit even though I only use it during the gamebird season.
See hereGolden Downs Hunting Permit Applications
Christ I dont no where you are door knocking mate but I dont think its as easy as 1 2 3 to get on land with anything worth shooting. Maybe shooting rabbits and possums that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eion
And the punishment for the perpetrators was really stiff and stern, should stop any recurrence. No wonder the police don't care, the judge doesn't
But that's not poaching is it? A chopper pilot and some others got done for that down here not too long ago. MacKenzie did it a few years back as well if I recall correctly........Quote:
Originally Posted by Eion
you poach, then get caught,possible loose firearms licence, no more hunting, or if you do get locked up. easy to get doc land permit, hunt the deer, get good stag,makes u feel real good, and you know you have earned very part of that trophy, thats for sure.
That is just fucked up right there. Paying for permits be fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
Then I hear the other day that pig islanders are coming down and paying to shoot rabbits. Idiots.
Behaviour like this is what will fuck hunting in this country, if you want to pay then head over to pomeland or some such. My lot come out to get away from this type of behaviour. But I see our bubbernment and hunters themselves bring it here. It makes me sick.
Maybe if Doc stopped hammering the deer with 1080 there would not be a need for there people to poach private land????
Wash ya fucking mouth out!!!:pissed off:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
Yes.... wire hunt... There is no need for this sort of abuse to anyone here!
I'm going to sit in my happy corner now and rock and bump my head against the wall:O_O:
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Originally Posted by madjon_
Don't forget the happy thoughts too, They do help, really they do, really
It was named that before I was born...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
:D:D
two years ago??? i thought it was named that longer than that baroooooo!!!!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
Seems that name is around 300 years old for you lot......
First time ive heard it
thats becasue we dont give a shit about it!!!! but its funny that this thread is about poachers but wirehunt always brings it back to pig islanders???? I reckon he just wants to move here;)
Done my time there a few times NS. Wet bastard of a place.
Im sure with that slack tounge you got outsted!! :yarr::yarr::yarr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
I find "pig islander" funny!
Same I was trying to rile Wirehunt up!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer