Thread: Introducing Larry

Ah that first deer, they usually are a hard one to get but you now have got it, well done ,get out there and shoot a few more with them Noslars,I am sure you will see some different results , some run some don't. Enjoy the meat Larry will taste good for sure.

Well done and welcome to the life of a hunter gatherer.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

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A shout out to the guy who helped me get Larry.

I read that book last week while at Mavora, second time reading it, still a great book.
he must be due for a second book by now!!!

Good stuff Max, a great feeling getting that first deer. I read one of your earlier posts where you said you hadn't got one yet and I was thinking you know plenty about reloading and shooting so it's great you now have your first deer.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

well done max, but why "larry"? was it wearing a leisure suit ?

Just a whimsical choice, I was listening to a funny podcast a few days ago where a larry was mentioned in passing, I guess that was the inspiration.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

Yes @Tahr and @bully, maybe I was a little hasty when I looked at that photo last night on the phone.

However....

Now not to detract at all from Max's achievement. I think we're all stoked for the guy.

The point of impact is not low, as in too low, assuming it wasn't steeply downhill? The point of impact is very close to or right on the top of the heart. In that area, the main pulmonary and aorta arteries run into the heart, surrounded by quite dense and blood filled lung tissue. If the bullet had opened up fast and partially fragmented as it should, you'd expect it to cause huge damage to the main arteries and lungs with a very fast bleed out - I would expect it to run a short distance and not collapse on the spot, but not that far.

The contradiction is that for years guys have been complaining about Nosler BTs breaking up and under penetrating. The flipside is that sometimes they just don't seem to fragment at all, and do what Max has observed. So my comment about the Nosler is probably a bit biased, cos I gave up with them some time ago due to a lack of consistent outcomes with shot placement being mostly equal. I just couldn't get them to perform reliably. I think it was @300_BLK who said recently he gave up with them too for similar reasons.

So yeah, just responded last night to Max's observation that the bullet didn't appear to have created much of a wound channel.

Again, happy to be challenged with this view! Perhaps Nosler has toughened up the 120gr BTs in response to all the criticism of them being too fragile, and I just don't know about it.

The way I see it.... If you don't want it to run take out the front shoulder/leg I guess that's in line with tahr saying hit bone. Better to loose a front leg than a whole deer. This is the problem with a "meat saver shot". Taking nothing away from max however, under pressure with your first deer. It all ended well, no problems.

Agreed @bully, I think I overstepped the mark a bit on this one, sorry fellas. Sometimes a bit to inquisitive for my own good. Or should that be fussy. Or something worse. Anyway, I think I found the answer... I'd been using two different Ballistic Tip designs without even realising... one blows up, the other most certainly doesn't...

Good stuff Max. My experience is a bit opposite to yours. Shot a few deer some years ago (not many) then moved to a different part of South Is and much like you once "were" . . . I an am an armed tramper of late lol.

Well done Max. First of many I'd say!

Originally Posted by Dama dama

Well done Max. First of many I'd say!

That'd be a nice thought.

Congratulations Max. You are now a man.
Don't worry about the bullet. Its easy to over analyse on one example and wild animals are unpredictable by definition.

I once shot a hare with a .308 once right through the ribs and it ran for a 100 metres with nothing at all inside its chest. I don't use a .308 anymore. That was definitive.

Himmmm first deers ah! So WHY were you not blooded? strip of blood down each cheek for those who don't know.....makes you feel like a right tawt
Good on ya Max as said hope it's the first of many

Well done. The first is always the one you won't forget. As others have said, don't over think it, just enjoy your achievement.

great stuff Max...and the ballistic tips work fine at lower speed (we have had bang flops with 125grn from 7.62x39mm not eggzachary honking along) as others have said,take out the front wheels bro....you cant drive anywhere without them. its Friday today so looking forward to the tasting report
re speed of reloads.......Ive gone down this rabbit hole and gone full circle...for years I loaded mild due to a naasty habit (starts with f rhymes with grinch) and killed deer etc OK.after fitting suppressor my loads have crept back up to semi hot side of the line and yes they do seem to preform a tad better....plinking or small game loads going slow is fine but big stuff with relatively light projectiles like you are using,push them along a bit faster and see how you go,they should open up faster and make more mess,but if you miss rib on way in there isnt much resistance to start it off.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

great stuff Max...and the ballistic tips work fine at lower speed (we have had bang flops with 125grn from 7.62x39mm not eggzachary honking along) as others have said,take out the front wheels bro....you cant drive anywhere without them. its Friday today so looking forward to the tasting report
re speed of reloads.......Ive gone down this rabbit hole and gone full circle...for years I loaded mild due to a naasty habit (starts with f rhymes with grinch) and killed deer etc OK.after fitting suppressor my loads have crept back up to semi hot side of the line and yes they do seem to preform a tad better....plinking or small game loads going slow is fine but big stuff with relatively light projectiles like you are using,push them along a bit faster and see how you go,they should open up faster and make more mess,but if you miss rib on way in there isnt much resistance to start it off.

I had a few butterfly steaks last night, which tasted pretty good, and I have a crockpot full ticking away on the kitchen table.