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Poachers go hi-tech with military-grade gear | Stuff.co.nz

Originally Posted by screamO

Poachers go hi-tech with military-grade gear | Stuff.co.nz

James Andrew Pomeroy, 31, was fined $5000 in the Nelson District Court in December for unlawful hunting on private land in the Gowan Valley. Pomeroy admitted not having permission to hunt on the property but said it was one of his companions who fired the shot at the deer, and that he was there to recover the shot animal. The judge ordered the destruction of Pomeroy's hunting knife.

Look at the conviction for the guy caught with a rifle but no licence. not even jail time!

Originally Posted by Friwi

Look at the conviction for the guy caught with a rifle but no licence. not even jail time!

That is seriously fucked up. Stealing, while armed. Just fucking great. Judge needs a size twelve boot up the arse

Maybe the knife was special?!? I bet that taught him, at least the fine would have hurt a bit.

On the other case:
Unlawful possession of a firearm... AND it was only confiscated??? Gee what did he learn from that one.

Someone needs to start dishing out realistic punishments. No surprises that this is a problem.

I don't know what the relevance of the type of gear they are using has to do with it. Not to mention the incorrect use of terminology with regard to suppressors. Agree, poaching is no good. But this report focuses too much on demonising legitimate equipment.

Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.

Can we have a heated discussion over 'what is mil-spec?', in regards to military-grade gear?

Anything of lower grade than sporting gear?

Originally Posted by tararua

Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.

Some already do.

Its profitable to poach and until its not this will continue to happen. The law is an ass an those that enforce it have no balls. Harden up on the punishments and enforce them, not just a slap on the hand and then tell them how naughty that are.

Originally Posted by screamO

Poachers go hi-tech with military-grade gear | Stuff.co.nz

Because a rural cop speculates that NV kit is being used doesn't make it fact. His mate, a cop from Motueka, recently bought a Pulsar Quantum HD38s. This is the piece of kit he is referring to. All convictions have (including the two cited in the article) have been spotlighting incidents.

Originally Posted by tararua

Get in quick before the Night Vision Restriction Act 2015 prepared by NZ police and rushed through parliament under urgency.

Only terrorists and poachers need night vision anyway. And LandSAR so join your local branch.

Just a thought, landowners and farmers could make use of this technology to catch poachers very easily.

We sell heaps of NV and thermal kit to farmers and landowners, for pest control and security. Our equipment has enabled farmers to catch poachers red handed on several occasions, and not one of the poachers caught were using NV/Thermal. Farmers and landowners benefit from a safe and effective means of reducing pests, from rats to crop raiding deer.

To say that only terrorists and poachers need NV/Thermal is rubbish. Night hunting is a sport enjoyed by many of our clients, including several police officers. It is to hunting, what searun trout fishing is to trout fishing. Exciting and productive (sometimes). I love it, and it's really convenient to get out for a night hunt after I've been bollocksing myself at work all day.



Lose NV/Thermal, then suppressors and semi-automatics will be next. Just take a long hard look at Australia firearm laws.

As far as I am aware, no poaching convictions have arisen through the use of NV/Thermal. Not being able to catch poachers does not automatically mean that this technology is in use. Sure, there may be a few that will poach with this equipment, but there are strong laws in place that make this a very risky enterprise.

Originally Posted by tararua

Can we have a heated discussion over 'what is mil-spec?', in regards to military-grade gear?

High refresh thermal imaging (30 frames per second or more), and FOM 1800+ Gen3/3+ NV.

Originally Posted by Yukon

High refresh thermal imaging (30 frames per second or more), and FOM 1800+ Gen3/3+ NV.

is there really a law being prepared? Sounds like a rumor to sell more gear.