Where on/in its body did you shoot your last deer/pig/goat
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Where on/in its body did you shoot your last deer/pig/goat
why ? if this is another pole pushing your agenda and displeasure about how some of us choose to buy and sell rifles and use components it'll get binned just like the other thread.....go take your rifle for a walk mate an come back with a story that adds value to this site instead of flogging a dead horse :ORLY:
You forgot the gut shot
I recently took a poll and found out 100% of campers were angry when their tent collapsed
Poor Mr duck seems to have touched a nerve here, the distance thing is perfectly valid question and the answer will probably end up same as the NZDA survey.
Most hunters aren't quite as passionate about gaining experience, up skilling, pushing the boundaries, etc as people here are.
If you end up shooting something in a place you didn't expect eg the arse when you aimed at the neck, it's not the "accuracy" of the equipment that's the issue it's the operator.
Courses like the hunts, and the American Appleseed academy (which goes even further back insisting on proficiency with irons before optics) teach basics like the oft quoted rule of 3, and knowing your limits it's up to the individual to decide what they do next.
Many hunts terminate when a target of opportunity appears which probably accounts for so many close range kills.
I have some reasonably modern stuff and optics and predominantly use that, but going out and shooting something with one of my antique single shots with open sights seems to be much more satisfying. I haven't done that in too long now that I think about it so I must put that right soon.
well if thats YOUR attitude..go right ahead and I shall refrain from posting full stop this right here is by far the most arrogant post Ive ever seen you postQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
young BradS DID INDEED SEE why they were created but up to you..Im completely over it if this is the forums managements attitude.
FFS get over yourself, if you want to post passive aggressive stuff about how other members (myslef included) see fit to use "their" components then you can expect to be called on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Your other poll was fine until you started doing that, I don't know what other kind of reaction you were expecting....clearly you can give but cannot take.
The forum management does not have an attitude. Individual members who act as mods may have their own opinions and attitudes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
*pollQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Apart from offending a moderator, for what reason was that thread binned? Seems a bit on the nose considering there was none of the usual banned topics being discussed.
Genuine question
It's interesting where this is heading because so far 80% are aiming for the lungs/shoulder. I cant find the range poll (?) but I recall the majority were under 300 yards. So a basic accuracy of 1.5 Moa will do the job 80% of the time. The other 20% are going to need something better - like under 1 Moa. I guess the problem arises when the 80%ers want to do what the 20%ers do. Unfortunately it becomes the animals problem and no one wants that.
We should be all diligent about sighting our rifles in properly and accurately. We should take careful stock of our ability and experience and adjust what we shoot, at what ranges and where we aim accordingly. Yeah?
@gimp. There was this rocking horse. Its father was a Pole and its mother was a hard case.
@Tahr. The other poll showed the most voted for catagories were deer shot either under 25y or between 200-300y. I guess that shows 2 different styles of hunting.
I wonder if the choice of firearm/cartridge/optic used would correlate to those catagories?
so what happened to "play the ball not the man"Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
DannyB
YOU AS A MODERATOR had a choice to remove offensive individual POSTS give warning to keep it civil and LEAVE the useful there...if it wasnt useful why did you add your last shot plus details???
Gimp....yip indeed forum management doesnt show bias..... but apparently a NON PERSON specific comment triggered someone who is moderator.... if thats passive agressive..I guess I shall have to apply a better filter in future and hope the person offended can seek councilling if is so easily triggered.
funny how same person directing comment DIRECTLY at me in 270wsm thread is ok....... I had no problem with that,fair play and a bit of banter....
and why..is in the title..Gibo asked why I have issue with accurate rifles...I DONT but started this poll along with the other showing the MAJORITY of deer are shot under 300yards/meters so a person can JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES based on answers provided as to what is normal...agree with Tahrs comment we all should endevour to have rifle correctly sighted in .Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
if sighting in/grouping, is as good as we can get it and still only 2 or indeed 6" 150mm shotgun like pattern..well we need to adjust the other factors to ensure a clean kill..get closer untill that 150mm pattern will still put projectile in place to ensure a clean kill...if we cant do this....most muzzle loaders are out.,most shotguns are out,most SMLEs and lever action 30/30s with open sights are out too..the fellas using stick n string best take up tiddly winks too....after all a miss is a shot that didnt connect inside that desired group area.
Im not pushing an adjenda or taking pot shots at how other people do things...its your $$$$$ if you wish to use it in whatever manner ,up to you...when you turn around and piss n moan about cost of living hurting etc etc..maybe you can expect to be called out????
I simply dont care....your big enough n ugly enough to make up your own mind..... putting up a poll was to HELP folks decide whats relevant/needed.
I have nothing of value to add.....call it what you want I really don't care, If I made comments referring to a "milk tanker driving, part time deer and wallaby scarer" it wouldn't take too long for people to figure out who I was targeting (disclaimer I am not taking slight at your deer or wallaby scaring prowess, just using an example of non person specific reference).Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
sweet you want your poll back, I'll reinstate it minus your slight.
yes I remember watching a hunting program years ago with a bloke called Jeff something and he was sighting in a 25-06 Remington- fired one shot and it was about 2 inches high and an inch to the left at what looked to be about 100 yards - good enough he says - and I just cringedQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Last two shot on Sunday. 1 neck shot, second bonus one crease shot. If hunting for processor, neck shoot for the better money. If hunting for myself, neck, crease or shoulder in that order to maximise meat recovery. If culling, anywhere that gets a good kill.
The last one I shot myself before letting the lad take over, was a headshot small fallow pricket.
163m. Tikka Super Varmint .223 Rem. 50gr Z-Max. 0.3 mil up, ~25x zoom on the Meopta. I love the FFP MRad 1 RD reticle, with the circle and illuminated cross hair - makes targeting the head a very precise business.
I shall refrain from posting a photo of the outcome as it is exceptionally gory even by head shooting standards.
My last was through the shoulder of a young red stag but it depends on a number of things as to where I target. Distance, shooting angle, how much meat I want to take and even which rifle and load I am using.
Last one was head on. Pretty much all I had visual. It did hit a tad low though. Bullet did go into neck though n turned it into a Popeye.
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Best post so far. A practical point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Good comment. Ditto for me, as all these things go through my head automagically and then....bang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
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What ever you guys do,as long as it repeatable and hit your target,bang flop.To close to xmax for getting streassed out.
I don't shoot anywhere enough to be an expert on this I would have to say my normal prefer just behind front legs into lungs etc.
If it mangled the front legs that would only be annoying of I didn't have to carry it out.
Last shot was a wobbly shot of my knees braced very poorly at a neck at 120yrds in dim light.
Yep so many factors. What type of animal? am I killing it for meat or trophy? How far from road end is it? How hard do I think it will be to kill, and how badly do I want to kill it? Also how much time do I have, What kind of rest do I have, and am I feeling confident today? All are factors.
My fall back position is the shoulder.
High shoulder with aim of breaking spine most of the time.
Misjudged the size of the goat and my lower neck shot turned into a shoulder shot. Found the leg.
Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.
good shot with a 308 or 270 but having shot a lot of deer with a .222 not a good shot with that calibre risky and chance of a long follow up tracking stint without a lot of blood - shot them there and had them get up and take off - just not enough lung damage - with .222 always tried to get bullet in behind shoulder into main part of lungs - yes a little blood trailing but usually less than 50 metreQuote:
Originally Posted by EmpireSafaris
Some years back a mate and I both had .270s, I used to swear by a centre of shoulder shot that broke bone and put animals straight down. He hated that shot and aimed o put a bullet in behind the shoulder. neither of us could understand each other. Until one day we worked out that he used a lighter constructed projectile that offered massive quick expansion while I used a bonded core type projectile that often exited. Both of us had the correct placement for our given projectiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
The problem with this shot is if you miss the spine you are in no man's land with no vitals I've seen deer get up and run after hitting the deck with this shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmpireSafaris
Missing the spine and too high to break the shoulder.
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If given the choice - centre of front shoulder. Knock out the front wheels and the beast doesnt go far at all.
Interesting thread , some true colours appearing . Nice .
Can we do a poll on who wears crocs for hunting :)
I don't wear crocs while hunting but I have shot a stag while wearing crocs. On my boat in Fiordland and a stag wandered out onto the beach 40m away. I was wearing camo crocs, I think that's why he didn't see me in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
Ive always done lung shots on deer. Works for me. Lung on goats unless im using 22 hornet or 22 rf then its head shots
I'm all about the meat harvest and mainly shoot goats at close range, so head shots for me. If there's any distance, I'll move to a shoulder shot
I try to shoot front shoulders, less likely to run and easier target. I have done neck shots in the past successfully though.
When the processor is paying good money for goats it’s up to $5/kg for head/ upper neck shot and $2 maybe $2:50/kg body shot so you soon learn to take head/neck shots. Same rules for venison just different money.