Thread: Kaimanawa Forest Park

Taupo Mayor has no say .hes not aloud to make decissions ,he has to ring other parties first

Originally Posted by erniec

Kaimanawa Alpine Adventures – Heli-Biking, Mountain Scenic Flights, Glamping have a look.

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Interesting.
If you have hunted the valley you might know where the “Glamping” spot on their site is. Looks very much like Jap Flats.
Possibly going to push a cycle track up the true left of the river looking at their site.

https://www.mbie.govt.nz/dmsdocument...ine-adventures

I’m a mountain biker and hunter. Probably a better or more accomplished mountain biker. But hunting is my first love.
Ridden the Heaphy, Old Ghost Rd, a bunch of minor West Coast tracks, Nelson & Lakes, Motatapu and a shit load of North Island tracks & races.

Have to be honest, it looks awesome, I’ll be lining up to do this. It’s private land/property and good on them for finding a way to make a dollar from it.

Of course the great shame should it eventuate, would be the denial of access for us as hunters into the doc estate, which is there for all.
And from what I’ve read in previous comments, there seems to be little sound reason for blocking it now..

https://fb.watch/f_kWQP-Fp4/

Access to the park and what they want to do are not competing for the same bums on seats.
Trampers and hunters are not their targeted market.

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Well their website does quote hunter trip prices from the Waipakihi Rd base to Waipakihi Hut and other locations on that side of the park? Looks like they are covering all areas of recreational activities? The vid just focuses on mountain biking as a cover?

Originally Posted by Mohawk .308

Paid for by the tax payer and then denied access to New Zealanders to access to the Kaimanawa’s.
Remember that when your lining up to do this.

Not saying I agree with the access/road issue, quite the opposite. But the mtb aspect is awesome.
Plus it should give hunters who want to fly, better access into the southern end of the park. 5 min flight rather than 15min.

I’d expect with the nature of riding there will be plenty of empty return flights, so possibly Helisika will offer a walk in fly out options where we can snag a cheap ride out.

But then HS are not known for value for money, so I wouldn’t hold my breath..

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Helisika and 'snag a cheap ride out' have never gone in the same sentence

Originally Posted by Lauries Hut

Not saying I agree with the access/road issue, quite the opposite. But the mtb aspect is awesome.
Plus it should give hunters who want to fly, better access into the southern end of the park. 5 min flight rather than 15min.

I’d expect with the nature of riding there will be plenty of empty return flights, so possibly Helisika will offer a walk in fly out options where we can snag a cheap ride out.

But then HS are not known for value for money, so I wouldn’t hold my breath..

But it gives hunters who want to walk no access. It's a crock of shit and no amount of rolling it in glitter will disguise this.

To quote Aldo Leopold "Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching- even when doing the wrong thing is legal" that is the standard we as hunters should hold ourselves and those we do business with to. @Lauries Hut. I respectively ask you to consider this when thinking about supporting this operation.

Helisika doing honey or hive deliveries into the park mow

Hunting – Kaimanawa Alpine Adventures
just looking at their price list. A few cheaper flights from their waipakahi base, but thunderbolt tops drop off for example still the same price as from helisika base .

As noted several pages back, I sat in a meeting with Woody and XR500 at the Taupo Council offices.

Mayor Trewavas, the council counsel and the deputy CEO were there. The Mayor and counsel both said they were unaware of the issue before we contacted them, and initially claimed Waipakihi road wasn't even in the councils area of responsibility. We now see that the council had made a submission in support of the Trust/Helisika plan, as had Enterprise Taupo - funded in main by the council.

I am left with two possible answers as to the statements from the council

1) They are so fantastically incompetent that they were unable to recall writing a submission in favour of what I think is the largest landholder in the district, or

2) they were lying.

Anyone out there with an alternative scenario? I left Africa because of this sort of corrupt bullshit, and I am horrified to see it arriving here.

Hence my earlier reply that the Mayor was full of bullsh.t. He must think that's okay to lie? And on the topic of the heli price from the Waipakihi Rd for hunters - 2k to the Waiapakihi Hut isn't cheap compared to flying from their Poronui base? Though no option for anything smaller than the Squirrel from the Waipakihi Rd end? This Govt is allowing past public access that once was to be locked out unless you pay $$$ - go figure. And according to media statements online because of 'flytipping' in the area? Really. Also comments from the mods on the Huts and Backcountry FB suggest we are being racist about the Urewera's hut removal and things will get better though Tuhoe are quoted they wish to remove 'Western influence' from the park? All such a pity really - the downhill slide.

Originally Posted by Ross Nolan

As noted several pages back, I sat in a meeting with Woody and XR500 at the Taupo Council offices.

Mayor Trewavas, the council counsel and the deputy CEO were there. The Mayor and counsel both said they were unaware of the issue before we contacted them, and initially claimed Waipakihi road wasn't even in the councils area of responsibility. We now see that the council had made a submission in support of the Trust/Helisika plan, as had Enterprise Taupo - funded in main by the council.

I am left with two possible answers as to the statements from the council

1) They are so fantastically incompetent that they were unable to recall writing a submission in favour of what I think is the largest landholder in the district, or

2) they were lying.

Anyone out there with an alternative scenario? I left Africa because of this sort of corrupt bullshit, and I am horrified to see it arriving here.

Yeah, I have an alternative scenario, based on the thesis "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." though I'm inclined to substitute ignorance for stupidity in this case. I'm not at all surprised that the Council reps at your meeting didn't know of this . I'd speculate that providing a submission in favour of something like this would not be something that crosses any of their desks, and if it did it would be supported particularly having regard for the party proposing it, and the current political climate.

Also expect the proposal provided to Council and the PGF wouldn't have noted that the public access would be closed.