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That is generous of you, but having met the guy I'm inclined to go with 2).Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxx
We sent a precis of the issue through, and I cannot believe that nobody did a search of the database with the words Rotoaira trust + Waipakihi road in it before meeting with us.
So if the people in that meeting did not have any clue, at least they must be able to point out who is/ the personal in charge of signing resource consents and stuff like that for the helisika development of their new venture.
I'll conclude this whole thread in just a few words.
You have sadly lost public access. Move on.
Move on. Really. How about we all just bend over and take another one for the team of 5 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusky
If we all thought like that we would very quickly find what used to be owned by every single New Zealander was shut up/off limits and would cost you in transport and royalties and other 'fees' to enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusky
Luckily most of don't lie down that easily
Spoken like a true trooperQuote:
Originally Posted by XR500
That was the exact response I was expecting.
Good to see some fight is still in some of you. Regardless, do you actually think challenging those responsible for making these decisions are going to "back pedal" and make any sensible changes?
The way I see it, it's a done deal.
True, but the heli company relies on likely more rec hunters throughout the year than just the mountain biking trails they now offer from the Waipakihi Rd end. Hunting clients having second thoughts about their public access routes denied aside from flying in would probably make some statement on what's not right if they looked elsewhere? Look at Lakeland Helicopters and Air Charter Taupo - great service in the past and good competition but locked out by..... the big picture is like an election - you get what you vote for.
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Originally Posted by Hunteast
Yeh; I had a look the other day and thought; has to be a mistake.
$2,000 to the Waipakihi hut, and I think it was $1800 to the Thunderbolt pad. Seems very high, for a short hop. I haven’t had a look on a map, to compare with their other distances. But looks like a decent Koha is going elsewhere, which I suppose is to be expected. If it was my land I’d be wanting a cut of the action.
Guys, don't shoot the messenger. Do some research, check for yourselves. DoC is doing "covert" deals over land swaps with various iwi around the country, that don't require public consultation. There is a push for the DoC estate to be handed to the first settlers of this country (Te Urewera was not the first example of this- I'm personally dealing with another example). They have a different attitude to us in how land should be managed. In the news today, I learnt that our courts now have the discretion to apply tikanga in ANY case they deal with, including the Peter Ellis creche case. Withdraw your heads from the sand, gentlemen. You are entitled to feel indignant, to say it's not right, but it is our future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohawk .308
Google: "Govt. asked to hand entire conservation estate to Maori"- May 2021.
As I have stated before the Stewardship Land Review is going to see big changes to NZ's Public Lands. Ownership/Access.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger 888
“ You are entitled to feel indignant, to say it's not right, but it is our future.”
This “future” only exists under the current political set up in Wellington where the red party are hostage to a certain faction in their caucus. Hopefully this ends in late 2023…. So best make sure you know which other parties are committed to ending the madness and changing laws accordingly
Looks like it's time to start lobbying our Mp's to see whats upQuote:
Originally Posted by chainsaw
I didn't see any reference to imposing apartheid in labours electioneering. Or stealing water and sewage or. .....
The Labour Maori Caucus are showing just how racist they really are.
This thread has turned to the usual un-constructive political and racial slurring. Hopeless.