Looking for a load to use on fallow in the bush thats going to work on ranges as close as 10m out to 200m, any ideas?
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Looking for a load to use on fallow in the bush thats going to work on ranges as close as 10m out to 200m, any ideas?
2206 or 2208 with 150gn Partition or 165SST or 165 NBT.
I use Nosler BT 150gr + H335, shot a lot of fallow up close and everyone has been dead on the spot.
Also to a large bull tahr at 375m... so pretty versatile!
Cheers, i have some 150g Accubonds to load ,your thoughts.
I don,t want any pass through shots when close, bush bloody thick and no dog.
110g Barnes ttsx 46g 2206h,my everything load for anything out to 200m these days.will pass thru for sure but kill really well.also I always want exit hole as it leaves better blood trail to follow if needed,one hole can get plugged up to easy leaving no blood trail at all.
150 gr rn any brand and 2206h, if shooting through foliage they do better than spire points and out to 200 the round nose shape makes bugger all difference in clear country to the trajectory. No need for a boat tail either cos its not long range.
I wouldn't use Accubonds, you wont get them going quick enough out a 16" to expand. You will have runners!Quote:
Originally Posted by zack
No need for fancy bullets at close range. I'd go BT/SST or standard softpoint. Will work a treat trust me!
I use Sierra 125 gr FNHP (# 2020) in my 30-30, does the job even if it has to go thru a tree on its way! I don't know what accuracy is like out at 200m though. All 30-30 projectiles i have used in my 308 have been devastating on goats, e.g front on shot and find the back leg ball joint lying on the ground as you walk to the carcass.
Speer 130gr HP (# 2005) go well in my 308 in front of AR2008, and definitely accurate to 200m. I see nowadays they are labelled as varmint bullets, the box I'm still using from way back wasn't, maybe just relabelling or maybe bullet has changed.
I,m using Speer 130g HP factory ammo at the moment, they work really well , yeah i noticed they a label as such.Thought Accubonds would be to much for fallow.
I,m really after a good all round projectile for fallow and the odd red out to about 200m.
What @Hunty1 said. Accubonds need to be driven fast to get the best from them.
I used 125 ABs in my 16" 308 for quire a while (mostly on Sika) and they were pretty good (2995 fps) but have gone back to the basic 165gn cup and core soft point, a Speer SPBT. They do the job just as well.
The Nosler web site states that the accubond will expand down to 1800fps is this bullshit then ?.
Hi on Fallow we've been using the 110 Hornady vmax flat bases with 2206 and have got some really good results out of our tika t3 bushpigs.
I Know @Happy really loves the 125 nosler hunting ballistic tips still going flat out with a compressed load of Winchester ball powder in his. Pure knock down power ! Mine just preferred even lighter pils for accuracy and ES and 2206 in mine at 13.5" with a MAE O/B supressor.
125grn ballistic tips or 130grn hollow point speers...both will expand very well so expect some meat damage...you cant make omlet without breaking eggs and you cant stop a projectile in a hurry without the energy going somewhere. place your shot with a bit of care and all is fine...worst case you loose bits of both shoulders....80% of good meat is behind the 3rd rib anyway.
I use 125gn Seirra Prohunters with a good dose of 2208 up their date, 20” barreled Sako.
Bang flop. Fallow, Sika,Reds and Thar no worries.
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@zack honestly you won't go wrong with a SST or BT out the bushpig. The 150gr has plenty of wallop out to 400yds if pushed at 2700fps. With a fast powder in a 16'' barrel that should be achievable within safe pressures. Just need the ability to shoot accurately that far... ��
Cheers sounds good.
What you need is some of them 208 amax's bro ;)
I'm running 165 federal trophy bonded tips out of my 17" with 2208, seems to be effective out to 250 on most animals even though its only going 2410fps. Looking to use it to a max range of 400
150gr sst on 44.5 gr 2206h
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Federal blue box.
They are a small deer for a 308.
Speer 150 btsp will work down to 1800 fps which is over 400 yards in a 308, but really on a little fallow maybe as the guys above say a monolith bullet like the tsx will save a lot of meat.
I have thought about this a lot as I mostly hunt the Blueys and just use my .308.
Use 2206H as it goes well in the short barrel. Any soft 150gr bullet would be ideal. Some have mentioned lighter weight bullets, personally I wouldn't use them.
I actually think @Marty Henry is on the money with soft round nose 150gr bullets for a .308 that is dedicated to close to moderate range shooting on fallow. I have a box of Speer 150gr RN sitting in the draw for this very purpose. I just don't use them as my .308 is my everything rifle, so I go with 165gr SP or SSTs, which of course kill fallow just fine.
Plus another one for the Speer 130 grain HP. They just work.
Yea that, they are all that is needed on Fallow sized game at those ranges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross Nolan
If wanting to save meat 130grttsx would be a good option.
I ran 165gr Sierra HPBT gamekings with 46gr of 2208 out of my 16.5" tikka 308 at around that 2600fps mark and smashed fallow up close and out to 200m(the one at 200m never took a step). Mate used it out to nearly 500yds on tahr and it dropped 2 bulls plus a chamois and 300yds~. Tried SSTs but not impressed speed and accuracy wise
Anyone know where you could get a list of what powders are used in factory ammo? I've been using hornady SST 150 in my 16. Goes fine but would like to know if there's something faster burning that might be better
hornady loads are a bit difficult to duplicate as they blend powders..the superpreformance powder we can buy is only one of a number they use . the .308 in my cabinet happy with 2208 or win 748....they arent fussy to feed.
So its hard to know what's in that hornady stuff then mickey? Can we tell what's in the others? Is there anyone making up loads if you send some shells? I kind of like the idea of a round that can shoot well out to 400 with a saving if a couple of inch's in the drop. Not stress about close as any quick expanding bullet works for me.
try a 20 pack from belmont in wanganui.....if your rifle likes them buy a hundy and be happy maybe you might be better served with a 165ish grn pill as they seem to be the flavour for slightly longer range.
How fast? I’m using the 130’s at 3000 FPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by The bomb
To the OP, at that distance I’d just use the most accurate load and head shoot them. Watch Waikeremoana’s YouTube videos. They use .22 centre fires and head shoot them all.
Do you normally reload as I just shoot factory ammo out of my little 16.5 inch 308? I cant really beat the 168 ELD M at 2620FPS. I find it knvoms everything of its feet without destroying meat. I've shot a few goats and pigs with it while I was back up the BOP. The ELD Ms expand very well at low velocity. I use them in all my rifles usually at the extreme heavy end that I can stabilise. I do have a 225 ELD M load for the same 16 inch 308 going 232FPS but I'm still playing with powders as I'm find accuracy around 2120 FPS with Varget. Going to try 2206H to find the next Node. NOTE I HAVE A 1 IN 8 TWIST.
