Thread: Ministry for Hunting and Fishing confirmed

National's Todd McLay will be the minister along with Agriculture and Forestry.

he need to tell DOC twig& tweet and F&G to pull their heads in -a new broom sweeps clean.

let us hope so!

It's a govt. They'll find a way to screw us over or tax us. Probably both.


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Originally Posted by kotuku

he need to tell DOC twig& tweet and F&G to pull their heads in -a new broom sweeps clean.

Yes to DOC and F&B. I don't see F&G as the enemy, somewhat impotent on occasions (there's some real funny stuff going on up here with them), but I've always thought their heart is in the right place. Naive?

How is he going to manage the conflict when on one hand hunters want game to shoot and on the other forestry and agriculture are in his ear about the amount of feral animals around?

Originally Posted by Rn-85

It's a govt. They'll find a way to screw us over or tax us. Probably both.


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This one (Gov) likely less. They have appointed the Minister, now it's up to us to mine it. If we take a negative approach we certainly will get more of what we don't deserve.

Originally Posted by Ned

How is he going to manage the conflict when on one hand hunters want game to shoot and on the other forestry and agriculture are in his ear about the amount of feral animals around?

Perhaps by encouraging forestry and agriculture to welcome recreational hunting and improve access???

Originally Posted by Tahr

This one (Gov) likely less. They have appointed the Minister, now it's up to us to mine it. If we take a negative approach we certainly will get more of what we don't deserve.

100% agreed

Originally Posted by Shearer

Perhaps by encouraging forestry and agriculture to welcome recreational hunting and improve access???

yes a soultion that benefits all -controls pest levels ,doesnt cost farmers an arm and a leg ,less work for politicians .Not more whining academics .overall an application of good old fashioned commonsense .mind you we as hunters must also step up to the mark "use it dont abuse it "tell people what you want and how youllgo about it .lack of simple communication is one of the biggest pitfalls.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Perhaps by encouraging forestry and agriculture to welcome recreational hunting and improve access???

It's worth considering what might happen if that isn't enough

Originally Posted by gimp

It's worth considering what might happen if that isn't enough

Yes. Recreational hunters don't have a snowball's chance of controlling numbers now. The Game Council will have a role to play in an integrated approach. NZDA too.

- A management approach using recreational hunters in targeted areas (the RHA's are an example of this not working up to now).

- A management approach using pro cullers and aerial selective culling in targeted areas

- A straight ground and aerial gunship culling approach in targeted areas.

- It might even mean subsidising private land owners adjacent to the DOC estate and other high population areas to get them to participate in aerial/pro culling.

Sone reasonable questions might be -

Is it genuinely possible to find a realistic, enduring and sustainable solution to wild animal management that adequately satisfies the values of all parties?

If so, what could this look like? What changes to legislation would need to happen to allow implementation? What changes to legislation would need to happen to make it enduring?

Has any historical state of affairs in wild animal management in NZ met any of the criteria of 'an acceptable compromise to all', 'realistic' or 'enduring and sustainable' ? What can be learned from the past?

Yeh I get that access will be a quick win.
But good luck to him managing the beast that is health and safety and public liability with this.

Originally Posted by Ned

How is he going to manage the conflict when on one hand hunters want game to shoot and on the other forestry and agriculture are in his ear about the amount of feral animals around?

you know something????
that is so bloody easy to fix its not funny
its dead simple in fact.
yo uwant them gone??? you want them controlled?? right open your bloody gates and let people access them OR we will charge you to do it via less palitable means.
the airborne control via shooting has so many advantages in these modern times at thier disposal,the deer/pigs wont last if the $$$ are put in to put birds in the air....there was whinging on TV in last 48 hours from southland about animal numbers again...
agree 100%tahr we need to give them a chance to do something...