They would be attacked with ‘false facts’, skewed figures and emotive imagery...Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
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They would be attacked with ‘false facts’, skewed figures and emotive imagery...Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
It doesn't have to be a false claim. I'm sure not all animals receive a clean kill during these operations so even if one animal is found like that it will be enough. I'm certain though there will be many many animals who are left injured and maimed. All claims only need to be loosely based on some truth. You would just need to show one animal and that will stir emotions, show 100 animals injured there will be outrage. Show starving juveniles who are orphaned. If you say animals are injured you only need to show two or three that are but imply it's many more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
Look at the Maui dolphin lot, they only have to show one dead maui dolphin and it gets people going. Make Thar majestic and cute, furry and loveable and you will get a result.
As I said doing the moral high ground way has not ever worked for anything, it's time to change tactics and use their own tactics against them.
I know many who aren't hunters and they have absolutely no idea what this cull is about or how it's being conducted. Most don't even know what Thar is and what they are about. This whole thing is totally off the radar for the general non shooting public and is happening out of sight and out of mind. They just need to be "enlightened" and when they are they are horrified this is happening.
Lobby the SPCA over animal welfare. Call them hypocrites if they are ok with this as they are meant to stand up for the welfare of all animals. Again stir their emotions.
Lobbying DOC and Forest and Bird is getting us absolutely nowhere and is putting things backwards as the mighty PR machine of DOC runs an emotive campaign while we don't.
Don't tell porkies but you can enhance the truth. Remember every good lie needs to be based in some sort of truth.
So you can see how they roll, they distort their case and make outrageous claims. We could base our claims in pretty solid truth. Like I said some video of these culls underway and the the aftermath would be all it takes. Look at what some imagery of cows in a paddock does to people no matter what the reality of those cows is. .Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
You can all put this issue in its place by the vote.
Ive said same thing about the green rain.......get a whole variety of animals and film what happens to them when they eat pellets and poisoned carcasses and put the footage out in public places.....let the truth of how cruelly it kills out into open
the powers that be cannot do anything about it.
Anti 1080 protesters have showed plenty of footage of some terrible inhumane effects created by 1080 such as pet dogs dying in agony, stock poisoned, deer wrything around on the ground after ingestion.
Statistics of 50 % of monitored kea being wiped out by 1080 and knowledge that 1080 is endangering the population.
All this terrible evidence and portrayal yet either people dont care or they simply know we are powerless against the government.
It's the same with the Tahr. What would it take to stop what we all know is eradication and destruction of our recreation and hunting industry.
How can Sage and Reddiex have all the power to destroy our Tahr herd and get away with their actions???
....so have we worked out the end game yet....??
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A bit out there! but I have an idea , Himalayan Tahr endangered in there native country , Please the greenys stop killing them letting them rot, old school live capture export the live animal back for re release . We can do it we have a net expert in Invercargill world renowned . Get the funds from all interested ,send them home . win win
she might be more inclined to borrow Clarks Hawaiian sling and SPEAR the nanny...if she has indeed got belly full of arms n legs.
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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
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Yep. Eradicate all introduced species. Its becoming more obvious all the time. Think death by 1000 cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiroahunta
Hit firearm owners on one front , and hit the game they hunt on another front.
No guns, and no game. Correct?
im feeling this ^Quote:
Originally Posted by Allizdog
So just received the latest update from DoC on the Tahr control operations....must admit its a little hard to precisely determine quite how much control they propose..........the latest missive closed with:
Other control:
As well as the 77 hours discussed with the Game Animal Council, we will undertake a further 55 hours in the national parks’ management unit.
We’re also concerned about the geographical spread of Tahr, which is why we are targeting the northern and southern points of the feral range. This will be complimented by 145 hours of planned control in the exclusion zones and outside the feral range.
My basic arithmetic suggests there is 277 hours of control to come....? Doesn't sound right?
beat me to it maxx I got same numbers...WTF is going on here??????
Yes,this!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Allizdog
This is what predator free NZ is supposed to look like.
This is what jonkey signed us up for
More math seems to also suggest that if Tahr are eliminated from Nat parks then effectively the feral range is shrunk ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxx
Is it a coincidence that the half arsed slowdown of slaughter is just pre election?
And ultimately; here we had NZ Dept of "Conservation" found guilty in court of breaching the laws of DEMOCRATIC CONSULTATION and DUE PROCESS. Ultimately the Prime Minister should be accountable since her Minister of Conservation, Sage, is directly responsible to her. Sage should have been sacked and the PM Ardern should have been thrown out of office IN MY OPINION.
This not the first time this sort of thing has occurred. Where is accountability for those in Public Office. The citizenery has had to pay the PM and her Minister AND the Dept of Conservations salaries and court costs AS WELL AS putting up the money to chalkenge their ILLEGAL ACTIONS in a court of law. I am outraged by this.
A well-shot video with a voiceover that sounds like Attenborough saying - "..now the exhausted Tahr has run out of options and can only stand as the DOC cullers shoot her; they mistake the shot and she screams, another two shots are needed before she is finally dead. They leave her kid to die of exposure.."
Supply the footage and I'll write the script, done deal
I saw a T shirt on fb that read “sage is for stuffing chickens not Tahr “ I thought it was quite funny :)
Speaking of T Shirts,
After several months of shaking my fist ineffectually from overseas as the Department and current Govt try to ruin my favourite source of food and adventure, I’ve tried to design something snarky but relatively innocuous in public.
Raised a fraction over 1500 bucks to donate so far, I’m aware of how late to the party I am with this.
If anyone here is interested, I’m happy to send a link, but nobody likes ads - so I’ll refrain unless I hear something. I’m not taking a cent from this, I’m throwing it all at the Givealittle.
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Ordered, love mine. Perfect fit
I'd be keen on one, please PM me the linkQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I’d be keen on one.
Thanks for the support mate, and for anyone else who might be keen I’ll try put this here:Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
https://altitudecreative.digitees.co.nz/
Awesome @Dan , just ordered one , cheers
Cheers mate, Legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucky
Yep just ordered one myself [emoji1303]
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Tried, couldn't get it off medium size.
Click on the actual tee shirt not the add to cart, you can then pick what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
realistically, if you guys cant get anywhere with Doc or government , whats the next phase?
i say it alot, im watchn with invested interest to potentially get australia to follow suit on our premiere game animal, introduced as a game hunting animal may yrs ago....
So if you guys are fucked.... We are fucked proper.
got my shirt , they are awesome :thumbsup:
