Navigation with compass and map

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07-09-2015, 08:17 PM
K95

I don't know if I'm the odd ball but I almost never use a compass. Used one on the tops in a whiteout to get a general idea but can't remember too many other times. I've always found it easy enough to figure where I am from memory or a map alone.

Even if you're using a GPS be very very careful of your rifle barrel or knife. It throws it out something wicked.
07-09-2015, 08:18 PM
Pengy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibo

Mohawk660??

That's the one
07-09-2015, 08:25 PM
GravelBen

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Originally Posted by ebf

If you live in an urban environment, take bearings off any of the following:
...
trig beacons
...

What kind of weirdo would triangulate bearings off trig beacons? :ORLY:
07-09-2015, 10:22 PM
308

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Originally Posted by Rusky

A week ago in the Kaimanawas I stayed at a clearing that was a 40 min bush bash to a river and on the other side was the track. Pretty simple. I stayed until 30 min of light was left put gps on and made a fast paced walk through bush to said river. I always underestimate how dark the bush gets when light is fading. I then thought of the consequences of that GPS failing and how good I would be at finding my way out via a compass in the dark. Id say I could do it, but not very quickly and not with complete confidence. Im gonna have to give the compass some more practice and put the GPS in my pack as a last resort. Leaving the GPS on in your jacket plotting your trail and navigating via a compass/map marking your course as you go would be a worth while exercise.

The trick that I use when trying to find my way back is stop every once in a while on the way out and look at the view of the track from the way back then try to look for waypoints about every 30 paces or so

Works for me
08-09-2015, 08:18 AM
footsore

I recently wrote up a few techniques on another forum - heres the link

FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Navigation with Map and Compass
08-09-2015, 10:25 AM
Pengy

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Originally Posted by Tussock

What do we have to do to get people to post 10/80 arguments over there, and good posts like that over here?

It could be here resplendent in emerald green. All that well thought out and carefully written material languishing back in the 90s.

We bribe people you know. They have rules, we have bribery.

What would we need to do to get you to move that from there to here:D

He just did :thumbsup:
08-09-2015, 10:44 AM
Gibo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tussock

What do we have to do to get people to post 10/80 arguments over there, and good posts like that over here?

It could be here resplendent in emerald green. All that well thought out and carefully written material languishing back in the 90s.

We bribe people you know. They have rules, we have bribery.

What would we need to do to get you to move that from there to here:D

Cut and paste would work :)
08-09-2015, 12:11 PM
LBD

Try walking from the Barren River to Lake Wilmot on a low cloud wet day ...deer trails every direction.. no discernible track to follow, no land contour... just wet mud and trees that look the same in every direction....it is a no hope situation without a compass or GPS (if the batteries are still charged)
08-09-2015, 12:53 PM
R93

Don't you mean the Barrier?
Gotta hug the toe of the hill on either side. Way easier going.

I Love that country when no other bugger is there.

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08-09-2015, 01:28 PM
LBD

yes Barrier sorry. mixed up with Barren Saddle... The Pyke is great country alright...
10-09-2015, 12:14 AM
Shooter

So I have organized a bit of an introductory weekend to navigation for MYK on the 10-11th October. Anyone else keen? I could realistically have another 3-4 without it getting to big (utilizing my vehicle).

General plan is to cover:

Day One-
Map to ground
Use of compass
Resections
Open country navigation
Route planning and selection

Day 2 -
Close country navigation
Finish the day with a bit of a stalk over a set route planned the night before???

Maps will be provided as well as reference material. You just need to bring yourself a compass and enough gear to last a night in the bush.

At the end you will take away some pretty good hands on experience and a detailed "how to guide" for future reference.
10-09-2015, 07:40 AM
Shooter

Oh we will be meeting in Waiouru and head off from there, say 10am.
10-09-2015, 08:52 AM
Daggers_187

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooter

So I have organized a bit of an introductory weekend to navigation for MYK on the 10-11th October. Anyone else keen? I could realistically have another 3-4 without it getting to big (utilizing my vehicle).

General plan is to cover:

Day One-
Map to ground
Use of compass
Resections
Open country navigation
Route planning and selection

Day 2 -
Close country navigation
Finish the day with a bit of a stalk over a set route planned the night before???

Maps will be provided as well as reference material. You just need to bring yourself a compass and enough gear to last a night in the bush.

At the end you will take away some pretty good hands on experience and a detailed "how to guide" for future reference.

Keen pending other commitments. Anyone else from Wellington want to come and split gas to Waiberia?
10-09-2015, 09:09 AM
Shooter

2 down, 2 spots left...
17-09-2015, 06:28 PM
Myk

I'm stoking..bring on the 10th
05-10-2015, 09:13 AM
Shooter

Quick update.

We are still on for the 10th and 11th if any one else is keen. At this stage we could have two more attend without the group getting to big.

See you there!
05-10-2015, 11:03 PM
MikeP-NZ

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Originally Posted by P38

@Myk

Forgot to mention get yourself a Silva compass.

They will make it easier for you as they are the easiest compasses to use.

This is a good video to study.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O8DmkAC2wI

Cheers
Pete

Hi Pete,
The video you linked to is missing vital instructions on how to convert between grid and magnetic bearings. The maps used in the video appear to have meridians that point to magnetic north.
Our LINZ Topo50 maps have vertical grid lines that point to grid north. There's about 20° difference (depends which part of the country you're looking at)

Cheers,
Mike
11-10-2015, 09:01 PM
Myk

Hey boys, first and foremost I want to say a HUGE MONSTER THANK YOU TO SHOOTER. He welcomed me with open arms, and took care of my kit. He had a great approach to teaching and learning skills, and maximized time - he was all about getting everything squared away and getting down to the job at hand. Shooter was thorough and pragmatic, and had great patience. We went through everything concerning map and compass, and it was awesome getting out there and doing it practically. I had a choice overnight bivvy, and got the next day's orientation plan squared away. In the morning we carried out last night's nav plan, which consisted of 8 checkpoints (I stopped dropped and rolled more than I walked) and Shooter gave excellent encouragement and patience.

To all the boys who couldn't make it this round, I know Shooter is more than happy to go again. It's worth the time and effort. Enough said.

Again, big ups to you Shooter. Look forward to the next round and I'll send you some pics of my next hunt. Thanks bro.
11-10-2015, 09:20 PM
Shooter

Thanks @Myk, glad you enjoyed it!

You were far easier to teach then you give yourself credit for mate. Good luck with the hunt next weekend.

Yep, when work slows down I will put out the offer again for another weekend of practical navigation experience to those that are keen.

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