Looks like people have lost interest in this thread, but just in case someone ever comes across it and considers taking my advice..... be advised that a few weeks after posting this, I found that the soles were coming away from both of the boots, after only about 10 days use. I took them back to bivouac and was informed they had seen it before, on about 5 other pairs of the same boot. So, I take back my original advice to buy these.
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