Thread: New record, strange head

Douglas scorers nightmare.

Looks like a Venator stag.

They normally die from the weight when in Valvet. Jusy from my quick look, it looks like some of those points up in the royals could be measured back down to the bur (rather than back into the crown like normal) as you can see it naturally forming from the bur up, which would double the score on those points straight away. Compare the below with the original.

Not a pretty sight,shouldv been shot long ago.

Certainly not my cup of tea, but we all aren't the same so each to there own.

I think the precedent record shot with a crossbow just before covid lockdown was prettier .
This one looks like coming from a Netflix Medieval fantastic movie.

Not a nice classic head at all.
But, Each one like that brings in a 6 figure amount of Tourist dollars to the country and thats something a government has to pay attention to.
They talk about 1x high value tourist rather than 1000 penny pinching backpackers cluttering up the place.

Could it be a desease? Or infection?

Originally Posted by Oldbloke

Could it be a desease? Or infection?

no its not disease of infection - its in breeding at its worst mixed highly likely with a lot of supplements - let out of intense breeding farm into a larger paddock night before - now I understand they get these stags into darkroom while they are growing out their velvet and stuff supplements down their throat - could be way to much calcium or similar sparked massive growth spurt during velvet growth to produce such a monstrosity dont know - or just great feed and line breeding - there are hunters from overseas who demand free range fair chase others dont care - I know of one stag shot in a holding paddock alongside darkroom by client with a bow - yup hunted this down in nooozeland (excuse accent)- my guide mate said one did have to work bloody hard to satisfy clients - client would be sucking on a cold one in lodge after shooting stag just on dark - him and his mate are out sweating up a storm getting a 400lb stag out complete with head so client can pose with it in morning - sometimes midnight or worse before getting home - and then up at 4 to do it all again - one just hopes they pay a lot and spend even more

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

no its not disease of infection - its in breeding at its worst mixed highly likely with a lot of supplements - let out of intense breeding farm into a larger paddock night before - now I understand they get these stags into darkroom while they are growing out their velvet and stuff supplements down their throat - could be way to much calcium or similar sparked massive growth spurt during velvet growth to produce such a monstrosity dont know - or just great feed and line breeding - there are hunters from overseas who demand free range fair chase others dont care - I know of one stag shot in a holding paddock alongside darkroom by client with a bow - yup hunted this down in nooozeland (excuse accent)- my guide mate said one did have to work bloody hard to satisfy clients - client would be sucking on a cold one in lodge after shooting stag just on dark - him and his mate are out sweating up a storm getting a 400lb stag out complete with head so client can pose with it in morning - sometimes midnight or worse before getting home - and then up at 4 to do it all again - one just hopes they pay a lot and spend even more

I think its just genetics and good feed. As a general rule supplements dont work that way, the liver and kidneys are pretty efficient at removing excess minerals. Which is why its dubious taking health supplements for humans too.

It's bloody ugly as to me!

Originally Posted by whanahuia

I think its just genetics and good feed. As a general rule supplements dont work that way, the liver and kidneys are pretty efficient at removing excess minerals. Which is why its dubious taking health supplements for humans too.

okay- one hears these story's - true one - local breeder of Safari stags had huge red apparently near world record class - day before due to be trucked out to safari park to be dispatched by paying customer -rammed fence broken neck- $5 worth of dog tucker - was told $30,000 stag

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

okay- one hears these story's - true one - local breeder of Safari stags had huge red apparently near world record class - day before due to be trucked out to safari park to be dispatched by paying customer -rammed fence broken neck- $5 worth of dog tucker - was told $30,000 stag

Near world record class stags go for way more tham $30k, like add another $200k to it. Ridiculous money, but hey thats what the client wants, and knows that its been bred for the sole purpose of being shot in a high fence situation. A couple of years ago, research showed that high end hunting clients add by far the highest return for any inbound tourist to NZ. With little or no impact on the roading, the environment etc etc. Best type of client to have, very few of them, but paying substantial money for the tourism experience.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

no its not disease of infection - its in breeding at its worst mixed highly likely with a lot of supplements - let out of intense breeding farm into a larger paddock night before - now I understand they get these stags into darkroom while they are growing out their velvet and stuff supplements down their throat - could be way to much calcium or similar sparked massive growth spurt during velvet growth to produce such a monstrosity dont know - or just great feed and line breeding - there are hunters from overseas who demand free range fair chase others dont care - I know of one stag shot in a holding paddock alongside darkroom by client with a bow - yup hunted this down in nooozeland (excuse accent)- my guide mate said one did have to work bloody hard to satisfy clients - client would be sucking on a cold one in lodge after shooting stag just on dark - him and his mate are out sweating up a storm getting a 400lb stag out complete with head so client can pose with it in morning - sometimes midnight or worse before getting home - and then up at 4 to do it all again - one just hopes they pay a lot and spend even more

100% It isn't hunting.

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

no its not disease of infection - its in breeding at its worst mixed highly likely with a lot of supplements - let out of intense breeding farm into a larger paddock night before - now I understand they get these stags into darkroom while they are growing out their velvet and stuff supplements down their throat - could be way to much calcium or similar sparked massive growth spurt during velvet growth to produce such a monstrosity dont know - or just great feed and line breeding - there are hunters from overseas who demand free range fair chase others dont care - I know of one stag shot in a holding paddock alongside darkroom by client with a bow - yup hunted this down in nooozeland (excuse accent)- my guide mate said one did have to work bloody hard to satisfy clients - client would be sucking on a cold one in lodge after shooting stag just on dark - him and his mate are out sweating up a storm getting a 400lb stag out complete with head so client can pose with it in morning - sometimes midnight or worse before getting home - and then up at 4 to do it all again - one just hopes they pay a lot and spend even more

That is not correct.

Ugly.